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中国99A VS 印度阿琼，国外网友：阿琼看起来像是由乐高积木制成的。
China Type-99A, India Arjun
2023-03-17
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网友：印度和中国应该共同努力，因为西方对两个国家的仇恨很深。现在是两个国家携手为共同事业而工作的时候了。印度永远不应该和中国发生冲突，反之亦然。
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ipsum629
I love how the turret ERA looks on the type 99. The arjun just looks like a counterfeit early leopard 2.
我喜欢99式坦克上的外观。阿琼看起来就像早期豹2主战坦克的山寨版。
SeveAddendum
nah, real china aesthetic hours was the ztz-96 turret, the angled turret face was sexy af
不，真正的中国审美之夜是96式坦克的炮塔，倾斜的炮塔面真是太性感了。
Damian030303
Jagdpanzer IV(?)
Type 96A (and B) is by far the best looking MBT imo.
猎豹IV(?)，96A（和B）是我看过最好看的主战坦克。
SpiderLobotomy
Indian tank try not to look like a plastic toy challenge (impossible)
印度坦克尝试不像一个塑料玩具挑战（不可能）。
CrimsonAdder
The glossy paint scheme is so laughable. Who the heck thought that would be a good idea??
光滑的油漆方案太可笑了。谁想到这会是个好主意呢？
Level_Veterinarian47
More like try not to look like a leopard 2 challenge (impossible)
更像是不像Leopard 2的挑战（不可能）。
zenviking83
Was gonna say, it looks like it’s made of Lego bricks.
我要说，它看起来像是由乐高积木制成的。
vven294
It looks like it's made from Lego.
它看起来像是由乐高积木制成的。
MrDeviloh
Challenger II
They're not even in the same league
挑战者2号（指英国的一种坦克）和中国的99A坦克根本不是同一级别的。
slamongo
Not a fan of China but my money is on the Type-99A.
虽然我不是中国的粉丝，但我认为99A型坦克会赢。
Somizulfi
Even India put the money on T-90 than Arjun.
即使是印度，他们也会把钱花在T-90上，而不是Arjun（印度自主研发的坦克）。
ScopionSniper
Modern Type-99A variations are in the running for best tank in the world. Equivalent to any Western MBT.
Arjun is not that.
现代化的99A型坦克被认为是世界上最好的坦克之一。它与任何西方主战坦克不相上下。而Arjun（印度的坦克）不是那么强大。
Sandzo4999
The Type 99A is better and it’s not even close.
99A型坦克更好，而且差距很大。
AuspiciousApple
Minecraft camo.
像Minecraft游戏里的迷彩一样。
YoungSavage0307
Turret so boxy they probably built it from a minecraft how to build a tank tutorial
炮塔太方了，可能是从Minecraft游戏里的“如何建造坦克”教程中构建的。
Ragnolf_The_Wet
How can India spend so much money on defense and produce such shit lol
印度如何花这么多钱在国防上，却生产出这么烂的东西。
Angrykitten41
National pride and a lot of corruption
民族自豪感和大量的腐败
noxx1234567
Most of it goes towards salaries /pensions (55%) , defence R&D is only 3% of the total expenditure
Tank R&D is probably only 10-20 mil $ a year. What can you even develop with that
大部分开支都用于薪资/养老金（55%），国防研发仅占总支出的3％
坦克研发可能仅有1000-2000万美元/年。你能用这点钱开发什么呢？
braveyetti117
Sanctions. While this tank was under development, India was under heavy sanctios due to nuclear tests
制裁。在这款坦克正在研发的时候，印度因核试验而受到了严厉的制裁。
deathknell2004
How much money lol? The defence budget is different while the actual money spent on R&D is peanuts so we get a pretty good job done from the amount we spend
多少钱啊笑死人了？国防预算不同，实际用于研发的资金微不足道，因此我们花费的金额能够得到一个相当不错的结果。
Visionary_Socialist
Type 99A by a margin. It’s founded on Soviet technology that’s proven reliable and worthy and has been built upon with modern Western and Chinese technology. The Arjun is like the Indian AK-FAL crossover: Trying to be many things and being none as a result.
毫无疑问是99A型坦克。它基于经过验证可靠和有价值的苏联技术，并融合了现代的西方和中国技术。Arjun坦克就像是印度AK-FAL混合体：试图成为多种角色，结果却什么都不是。
Jihadi_Penguin
The AK-FAL-AR hybrid that is the K2 rifle is pretty good at all of the things the AK, FAL, and AR are though
So I don’t think a design can’t have a lot of pros of various progenitors it built upon
Problem is execution obviously
K2步枪是AK，FAL和AR的混合体，它非常擅长这些枪支的所有用途，所以我认为一个设计可以从不同的祖先中汲取许多优点。
问题在于执行力显然不够。
Mental-Story-666
India makes Lego tanks?
印度制造乐高坦克？
lelouch312
Let the arjun trolls start ruining this thread in 3,2,1....
让阿琼的喷子开始在这个帖子里破坏讨论吧，3，2，1……
Raddz5000
Low-key indian tank looks like it's made of Legos
低调地说，印度的坦克看起来就像是用乐高积木搭的一样。
AwesomeNiss21
I think the Type 99A is a better tank than even the Arjun, Mk.1A
我认为99A式坦克甚至比阿琼Mk.1A更好。
draheraseman2
Vastly superior, yup.
绝对更好，没错。
DaDoomguy45
As an Indian, I've always been horrified by the design failures of Arjun and the government's thick headedness. I don't support China in any way, but if these two tanks Duke it out, the only thing that will happen is Arjun will get stuck in the ground while Type 99 blows it up. The only thing that could possibly change Arjun's fate is the Penetration Cum Blast. Aside from the memes about it, it's actually very powerful round as shown in a video.
作为一个印度人，我一直对阿琼的设计失败和政府的固执愚蠢感到恐惧。我不支持中国，但如果这两个坦克对决，唯一的结果就是阿琼会被卡在地上，而99式坦克会把它炸掉。唯一可能改变阿琼命运的是穿甲高爆弹。除了对它的模因，它实际上是一种非常强大的弹药，这在一个视频中得到了证明。
Shturm-7-0
Didn't the Indian army basically give up on the Arjun and decide to get T-90Ms instead?
印度军队不是基本上放弃了阿琼，决定改用T-90M吗？
GlitteringParfait438
Is that a Leopard 2 turret on a T-72 Hull? No wonder India just kept buying T-90s
那是不是一个德国豹2坦克炮塔安装在俄罗斯T-72坦克的底盘上？难怪印度只一直购买T-90。
murkskopf
No.
不是。
Electronic-Inside-62
Arjun is the worst modern tank in the world. Type 99A combines T72 structure and western technologies and sub systems. I have to say Type 99A is the super T90. Due to the original structure design,Type 99A isn’t able to compete with western counterparts but it’s still the excellent tank
阿琼（Arjun）是世界上最差的现代坦克。99A型结合了T72结构和西方技术和子系统。我必须说99A型是超级T90。由于原始结构设计，99A型不能与西方同行竞争，但它仍然是优秀的坦克。
RECKER7717
why are u comparing a tank with a tractor?
你为什么要把坦克和拖拉机进行比较？
HornyArtist69
Ah yes the tank o' minecraft
啊，没错，我的世界（Minecraft）里的坦克。
currrlyhead
Isn’t the Arjun a complete and utter failure ?
阿琼完全失败了吗？
dgblarge
The 99 was an upgrade designed to crush shoppers with a metal shopping trolley. The older types were only suitable for shoppers with plastic bags.
99是升级版，旨在碾压用金属购物车的购物者。老型号只适合用塑料袋的购物者。
wtfboye
type 99A easily
99A型轻松应对。
dragonuvv
Dude why does the Arjun look like it’s made out of some cheap knock of lego
兄弟，为什么阿琼看起来像是用廉价仿制乐高积木做的。
ChiefWarlock7
Indian Arjun Mk II--58 ton, average-sized, 4-man tanks. Above-average armor protection. 24 hp/ton with 72km/h top speed; average reliability; below-average operating range (450km). Heavy ground pressure. Superb fire control and reload speed. Above-average main gun. Relatively cheap ($3M per).
India uses Arjuns as cheaper versions of the Abrams--to punch holes. India's tanks are not designed to operate in extended tank duels or cover ground; they are built to rapidly dismantle fixed defensive lines and open gaps for other units to cross. Indian tanks are given limited operating range not because the Indian Army has great logistics but because Pakistan is a small country. Also, they are heavy, but since their main job is crossing a desert between India and Pakistan, collapsing a bridge or two is not really a problem.
What is it suited for? Invading Pakistan in a short, swift campaign. It outguns all Pakistani armor, but lacks the range to invade any country larger than Pakistan without lots of refuelling capacity; capacity which the Indian Army currently lacks.
印度的阿琼Mk II是一种重达58吨，四人坐的中型坦克，具有超过平均水平的装甲防护能力，每吨24马力的动力性能，最高时速72公里，可靠性平均，作战半径较短（450公里），地面压力较大。火控和装填速度出色，主炮水平以上。价格相对便宜（每辆300万美元）。
印度使用阿琼坦克作为艾布拉姆斯坦克的廉价版本，用于破开防御线。印度的坦克不是为了进行长时间的坦克战斗或行军，而是为了迅速摧毁固定的防御线，为其他部队开辟缺口。印度坦克的作战半径受限，不是因为印度军队拥有出色的后勤能力，而是因为巴基斯坦是一个小国。此外，它们很重，但由于它们的主要任务是穿越印度和巴基斯坦之间的沙漠，摧毁一两座桥梁并不是一个真正的问题。
它适合什么？适合在短时间内侵入巴基斯坦进行快速战役。它的火力超过所有巴基斯坦装甲，但缺乏侵略比巴基斯坦更大的国家所需的作战半径和大量加油能力，这是印度军队目前缺乏的。
murkskopf
Indian Arjun Mk II--58 ton, average-sized, 4-man tanks. Above-average armor protection. 24 hp/ton with 72km/h top speed; average reliability; below-average operating range (450km)
Above average armor protection? Certainly not. 24 hp/ton? That's the Arjun Mk 1, not the Mk 1A/Mk 2. Same for the top speed. Arjun Mk 1A (formerly Mk 2) has a weight of 68 tons, a top speed of 58 km/h and a power-to-weight ratio of only 20 hp/ton as per the Indian CVRDE.
印度的阿琼Mk II是一种重达58吨，四人坐的中型坦克，具有超过平均水平的装甲防护能力，每吨24马力的动力性能，最高时速72公里，可靠性平均，作战半径较短（450公里）。
超过平均水平的装甲防护能力？当然不是。24马力/吨？那是阿琼Mk 1，而不是Mk 1A/Mk 2。最高时速也是如此。阿琼Mk 1A（曾用名Mk 2）的重量为68吨，最高时速为58公里/小时，根据印度CVRDE的数据，动力重量比只有20马力/吨。
ChiefWarlock7
To start with there are no great power tanks and small power tanks in today's world.Only MBTs that have the best armor protection and accurate firing ability on the move and taking out distant targets with the help of other resources in the battlezone with network centric warfare ability ,and highly sophisticated active protection systems which all needs heavy APU and space and protection for crew and separate storage of ammunition.So arjun was designed according to that.
This analysis is irrelevant in this age of armor piercing AFSPDS rounds. There are only two type of tanks . Tanks that can take punishment and and accurately fire and kill the lesser armored tank and other pieces at longer range .
In this information warfare age cheap and less sophisticated tanks with no heavy APU supported network centric warfare abiltiy and no armor protection are just sitting ducks.And extra 10 km per hour speeds mattered in World world war two era.Now the most potent enemy of the tank is attack helicopter so extra 10 km per hour ground covering ability wont get you anywhere.
If covering ground and extra 10 km per hour speed is so important today why does the T-90 weighs more than the T-72?
Now with highly accurate FCS of today , it is a laughable info to dish out a tank with extra 10 km per hour speed has an advantage because of it.
With lesser ground pressure ARJUN is the best option across the whole of india's western setor of desserts in rajasthan and slushy fields of punjab.
Indian army realized it and that's why they shelved a fantasy called 55 ton FMBT and quietly accepted that ARJUN mk-2 ,mk-3 will be the main MBTs of the future.
首先，在当今世界上不存在大马力坦克和小马力坦克，只有装甲保护最佳、能够在行进中精准射击、通过网络中心战争能力协同作战区内其他资源打击远程目标，并拥有高度复杂的主动保护系统的主战坦克，这些都需要重型发电机组和空间以及乘员防护和弹药独立存储。因此，阿琼就是按照这一标准设计的。
在这个弹道稳定脱壳穿甲弹时代，这种分析已经不再适用。现在只有两种类型的坦克：能够承受打击并在更远的距离上精确射击和消灭较差装甲的坦克和其他目标。
在这个信息战时代，没有重型发电机支持的网络中心战争能力和没有装甲防护的廉价、不太复杂的坦克只是被动等待被击毁的目标。而且现在，攻击直升机是坦克最强有力的敌人，所以额外的10公里/小时行进速度并不会有太大的作用。
如果如今行进速度和覆盖地面距离如此重要，为什么T-90的重量比T-72还要重呢？
现在随着高精度FCS的出现，认为额外的10公里/小时行进速度会带来优势已经是可笑的说法。
在较小的地面压力下，阿琼是在印度整个西部沙漠地区和旁遮普邦的泥泞田野中的最佳选择。
印度军方已经意识到这一点，这就是为什么他们搁置了一种叫做55吨FMBT的幻想，默默地接受了阿琼Mk-2、Mk-3将成为未来的主力主战坦克。
Somizulfi
Arjuns and mostly any tanks are gonna eat shit. India is no Russia(weaker) and Pakistan is no Ukraine(stronger).
阿琼坦克和大多数其他坦克都将失去作用。印度不是俄罗斯（更弱），巴基斯坦也不是乌克兰（更强）。
ChonkyThicc
Type 99A is better, but Arjun is the strongest tank in the world!!!!
99A式更好，但阿琼是世界上最强的坦克！！
Metzger4
Interesting the Indians are still using soviet style helmets.
有趣的是印度人仍在使用苏联式头盔。
loghead03
Soft helmets are actually fantastic in a tank. They’re comfortable, low profile for the tight confines of a tank, protect you from most of the bumps you’ll encounter inside the vehicle, and hold a comm set nicely.
软头盔实际上在坦克中非常好。它们舒适，在坦克内狭小的空间中低调，可以保护你免受车内大部分颠簸，也能良好固定通讯设备。
templar54
Can someone explain to me where is this high praise for the Chinese tank coming from?
有人能解释一下为什么对中国坦克如此高度评价吗？
murkskopf
Because Chinese tanks are rather competent. In many aspects they are (or were until the introduction of the T-90M) more advanced than Russia's main battle tanks.
Before 1989, China heavily cooperated with the West in regards of tank technology. The purchased British fire control systems, worked on tank upgrades in joint-ventures with the American company Cadilage Gage and the British Royal Ordnance Factories. Gun technology and APFSDS rounds were also imported (from Austria and Israel).
因为中国的坦克相当有竞争力。在许多方面，它们比俄罗斯的主战坦克更先进（直到T-90M的推出）。
在1989年之前，中国在坦克技术方面与西方密切合作。他们购买了英国的火控系统，与美国公司Cadilage Gage和英国皇家军械厂共同开发了坦克升级技术。炮技术和穿甲弹也是进口的（来自奥地利和以色列）。
stick_always_wins
It looks sexy af. The turret shape + digital camo is very attractive. It’s also based on a proven design and combines both Eastern & Western elements. +Arjun sets the bar so low that anything looks much better in comparison.
它看起来非常性感。炮塔形状和数字迷彩非常吸引人。它还基于经过验证的设计，结合了东西方的元素。+阿琼将标准降至了一个很低的水平，因此与之相比，任何东西看起来都更好。
Savings-Secretary-78
Arjun doesn't have an autoloader, it has a separate blowout panel, so the turret is safe,
阿琼没有自动装弹机，它有一个独立的爆炸孔板，所以炮塔是安全的。
woolcoat
Why even put these two side by side. Feels bad for Arjun.
为什么要把这两个放在一起比较。对阿琼来说感觉很糟糕。
_lnaccurate_
Type 99 for aestetics, does Arjun even have reverse speed?
Type 99看起来好看，阿琼甚至有倒车速度吗？
speedyboi696969
Whenever I see the word arjun my brain always corrects it to my real name because my name is very similar
每当我看到阿琼这个词，我的大脑总是把它改成我的真名，因为我的名字非常相似
awirelesspro
The rifled gun is the main issue with Arjun.
炮管是阿琼的主要问题。
Laspheryys
Type 99 actually looks really good compared to other Soviet designs
与其他苏联设计相比，99式实际上看起来非常好。
Consistent_Cause_131
India and China should work together, with the amount of Hate West has for both countries. It's time both nations join hands and work for a common cause. India should never fight with China and vice versa
印度和中国应该共同努力，因为西方对两个国家的仇恨很深。现在是两个国家携手为共同事业而工作的时候了。印度永远不应该和中国发生冲突，反之亦然。
Parad0x17
Arjun looks outdated.
阿琼看起来过时了。
ELTURO3344
M1 Abrams
Looks like it's made of Lagos Edit: Legos
M1艾布拉姆斯看起来像乐高积木制成的 编辑：乐高积木
mysterious_Bulgarian
Arjun looks kinda like its madenin minecraft
阿琼看起来有点像在Minecraft中制作的。
FlashingNova
Nobody is gonna mention the C U M ammunition's? really?
没有人会提到C U M弹药吗？真的吗？
Vietnugget
Germany: want to buy leopard2?
India: no. But we want to purchase parts of it over the course of several year and reassemble it as the most expensive tank in the world.
Germany: k
德国：想要购买Leopard2吗？
印度：不。但我们想在几年内购买它的部件，并将其重新组装成世界上最昂贵的坦克。
德国：好的。
原文地址：https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/11oxpzo/china_type99a_india_arjun/
I love how the turret ERA looks on the type 99. The arjun just looks like a counterfeit early leopard 2.
我喜欢99式坦克上的外观。阿琼看起来就像早期豹2主战坦克的山寨版。
SeveAddendum
nah, real china aesthetic hours was the ztz-96 turret, the angled turret face was sexy af
不，真正的中国审美之夜是96式坦克的炮塔，倾斜的炮塔面真是太性感了。
Damian030303
Jagdpanzer IV(?)
Type 96A (and B) is by far the best looking MBT imo.
猎豹IV(?)，96A（和B）是我看过最好看的主战坦克。
SpiderLobotomy
Indian tank try not to look like a plastic toy challenge (impossible)
印度坦克尝试不像一个塑料玩具挑战（不可能）。
CrimsonAdder
The glossy paint scheme is so laughable. Who the heck thought that would be a good idea??
光滑的油漆方案太可笑了。谁想到这会是个好主意呢？
Level_Veterinarian47
More like try not to look like a leopard 2 challenge (impossible)
更像是不像Leopard 2的挑战（不可能）。
zenviking83
Was gonna say, it looks like it’s made of Lego bricks.
我要说，它看起来像是由乐高积木制成的。
vven294
It looks like it's made from Lego.
它看起来像是由乐高积木制成的。
MrDeviloh
Challenger II
They're not even in the same league
挑战者2号（指英国的一种坦克）和中国的99A坦克根本不是同一级别的。
slamongo
Not a fan of China but my money is on the Type-99A.
虽然我不是中国的粉丝，但我认为99A型坦克会赢。
Somizulfi
Even India put the money on T-90 than Arjun.
即使是印度，他们也会把钱花在T-90上，而不是Arjun（印度自主研发的坦克）。
ScopionSniper
Modern Type-99A variations are in the running for best tank in the world. Equivalent to any Western MBT.
Arjun is not that.
现代化的99A型坦克被认为是世界上最好的坦克之一。它与任何西方主战坦克不相上下。而Arjun（印度的坦克）不是那么强大。
Sandzo4999
The Type 99A is better and it’s not even close.
99A型坦克更好，而且差距很大。
AuspiciousApple
Minecraft camo.
像Minecraft游戏里的迷彩一样。
YoungSavage0307
Turret so boxy they probably built it from a minecraft how to build a tank tutorial
炮塔太方了，可能是从Minecraft游戏里的“如何建造坦克”教程中构建的。
Ragnolf_The_Wet
How can India spend so much money on defense and produce such shit lol
印度如何花这么多钱在国防上，却生产出这么烂的东西。
Angrykitten41
National pride and a lot of corruption
民族自豪感和大量的腐败
noxx1234567
Most of it goes towards salaries /pensions (55%) , defence R&D is only 3% of the total expenditure
Tank R&D is probably only 10-20 mil $ a year. What can you even develop with that
大部分开支都用于薪资/养老金（55%），国防研发仅占总支出的3％
坦克研发可能仅有1000-2000万美元/年。你能用这点钱开发什么呢？
braveyetti117
Sanctions. While this tank was under development, India was under heavy sanctios due to nuclear tests
制裁。在这款坦克正在研发的时候，印度因核试验而受到了严厉的制裁。
deathknell2004
How much money lol? The defence budget is different while the actual money spent on R&D is peanuts so we get a pretty good job done from the amount we spend
多少钱啊笑死人了？国防预算不同，实际用于研发的资金微不足道，因此我们花费的金额能够得到一个相当不错的结果。
Visionary_Socialist
Type 99A by a margin. It’s founded on Soviet technology that’s proven reliable and worthy and has been built upon with modern Western and Chinese technology. The Arjun is like the Indian AK-FAL crossover: Trying to be many things and being none as a result.
毫无疑问是99A型坦克。它基于经过验证可靠和有价值的苏联技术，并融合了现代的西方和中国技术。Arjun坦克就像是印度AK-FAL混合体：试图成为多种角色，结果却什么都不是。
Jihadi_Penguin
The AK-FAL-AR hybrid that is the K2 rifle is pretty good at all of the things the AK, FAL, and AR are though
So I don’t think a design can’t have a lot of pros of various progenitors it built upon
Problem is execution obviously
K2步枪是AK，FAL和AR的混合体，它非常擅长这些枪支的所有用途，所以我认为一个设计可以从不同的祖先中汲取许多优点。
问题在于执行力显然不够。
Mental-Story-666
India makes Lego tanks?
印度制造乐高坦克？
lelouch312
Let the arjun trolls start ruining this thread in 3,2,1....
让阿琼的喷子开始在这个帖子里破坏讨论吧，3，2，1……
Raddz5000
Low-key indian tank looks like it's made of Legos
低调地说，印度的坦克看起来就像是用乐高积木搭的一样。
AwesomeNiss21
I think the Type 99A is a better tank than even the Arjun, Mk.1A
我认为99A式坦克甚至比阿琼Mk.1A更好。
draheraseman2
Vastly superior, yup.
绝对更好，没错。
DaDoomguy45
As an Indian, I've always been horrified by the design failures of Arjun and the government's thick headedness. I don't support China in any way, but if these two tanks Duke it out, the only thing that will happen is Arjun will get stuck in the ground while Type 99 blows it up. The only thing that could possibly change Arjun's fate is the Penetration Cum Blast. Aside from the memes about it, it's actually very powerful round as shown in a video.
作为一个印度人，我一直对阿琼的设计失败和政府的固执愚蠢感到恐惧。我不支持中国，但如果这两个坦克对决，唯一的结果就是阿琼会被卡在地上，而99式坦克会把它炸掉。唯一可能改变阿琼命运的是穿甲高爆弹。除了对它的模因，它实际上是一种非常强大的弹药，这在一个视频中得到了证明。
Shturm-7-0
Didn't the Indian army basically give up on the Arjun and decide to get T-90Ms instead?
印度军队不是基本上放弃了阿琼，决定改用T-90M吗？
GlitteringParfait438
Is that a Leopard 2 turret on a T-72 Hull? No wonder India just kept buying T-90s
那是不是一个德国豹2坦克炮塔安装在俄罗斯T-72坦克的底盘上？难怪印度只一直购买T-90。
murkskopf
No.
不是。
Electronic-Inside-62
Arjun is the worst modern tank in the world. Type 99A combines T72 structure and western technologies and sub systems. I have to say Type 99A is the super T90. Due to the original structure design,Type 99A isn’t able to compete with western counterparts but it’s still the excellent tank
阿琼（Arjun）是世界上最差的现代坦克。99A型结合了T72结构和西方技术和子系统。我必须说99A型是超级T90。由于原始结构设计，99A型不能与西方同行竞争，但它仍然是优秀的坦克。
RECKER7717
why are u comparing a tank with a tractor?
你为什么要把坦克和拖拉机进行比较？
HornyArtist69
Ah yes the tank o' minecraft
啊，没错，我的世界（Minecraft）里的坦克。
currrlyhead
Isn’t the Arjun a complete and utter failure ?
阿琼完全失败了吗？
dgblarge
The 99 was an upgrade designed to crush shoppers with a metal shopping trolley. The older types were only suitable for shoppers with plastic bags.
99是升级版，旨在碾压用金属购物车的购物者。老型号只适合用塑料袋的购物者。
wtfboye
type 99A easily
99A型轻松应对。
dragonuvv
Dude why does the Arjun look like it’s made out of some cheap knock of lego
兄弟，为什么阿琼看起来像是用廉价仿制乐高积木做的。
ChiefWarlock7
Indian Arjun Mk II--58 ton, average-sized, 4-man tanks. Above-average armor protection. 24 hp/ton with 72km/h top speed; average reliability; below-average operating range (450km). Heavy ground pressure. Superb fire control and reload speed. Above-average main gun. Relatively cheap ($3M per).
India uses Arjuns as cheaper versions of the Abrams--to punch holes. India's tanks are not designed to operate in extended tank duels or cover ground; they are built to rapidly dismantle fixed defensive lines and open gaps for other units to cross. Indian tanks are given limited operating range not because the Indian Army has great logistics but because Pakistan is a small country. Also, they are heavy, but since their main job is crossing a desert between India and Pakistan, collapsing a bridge or two is not really a problem.
What is it suited for? Invading Pakistan in a short, swift campaign. It outguns all Pakistani armor, but lacks the range to invade any country larger than Pakistan without lots of refuelling capacity; capacity which the Indian Army currently lacks.
印度的阿琼Mk II是一种重达58吨，四人坐的中型坦克，具有超过平均水平的装甲防护能力，每吨24马力的动力性能，最高时速72公里，可靠性平均，作战半径较短（450公里），地面压力较大。火控和装填速度出色，主炮水平以上。价格相对便宜（每辆300万美元）。
印度使用阿琼坦克作为艾布拉姆斯坦克的廉价版本，用于破开防御线。印度的坦克不是为了进行长时间的坦克战斗或行军，而是为了迅速摧毁固定的防御线，为其他部队开辟缺口。印度坦克的作战半径受限，不是因为印度军队拥有出色的后勤能力，而是因为巴基斯坦是一个小国。此外，它们很重，但由于它们的主要任务是穿越印度和巴基斯坦之间的沙漠，摧毁一两座桥梁并不是一个真正的问题。
它适合什么？适合在短时间内侵入巴基斯坦进行快速战役。它的火力超过所有巴基斯坦装甲，但缺乏侵略比巴基斯坦更大的国家所需的作战半径和大量加油能力，这是印度军队目前缺乏的。
murkskopf
Indian Arjun Mk II--58 ton, average-sized, 4-man tanks. Above-average armor protection. 24 hp/ton with 72km/h top speed; average reliability; below-average operating range (450km)
Above average armor protection? Certainly not. 24 hp/ton? That's the Arjun Mk 1, not the Mk 1A/Mk 2. Same for the top speed. Arjun Mk 1A (formerly Mk 2) has a weight of 68 tons, a top speed of 58 km/h and a power-to-weight ratio of only 20 hp/ton as per the Indian CVRDE.
印度的阿琼Mk II是一种重达58吨，四人坐的中型坦克，具有超过平均水平的装甲防护能力，每吨24马力的动力性能，最高时速72公里，可靠性平均，作战半径较短（450公里）。
超过平均水平的装甲防护能力？当然不是。24马力/吨？那是阿琼Mk 1，而不是Mk 1A/Mk 2。最高时速也是如此。阿琼Mk 1A（曾用名Mk 2）的重量为68吨，最高时速为58公里/小时，根据印度CVRDE的数据，动力重量比只有20马力/吨。
ChiefWarlock7
To start with there are no great power tanks and small power tanks in today's world.Only MBTs that have the best armor protection and accurate firing ability on the move and taking out distant targets with the help of other resources in the battlezone with network centric warfare ability ,and highly sophisticated active protection systems which all needs heavy APU and space and protection for crew and separate storage of ammunition.So arjun was designed according to that.
This analysis is irrelevant in this age of armor piercing AFSPDS rounds. There are only two type of tanks . Tanks that can take punishment and and accurately fire and kill the lesser armored tank and other pieces at longer range .
In this information warfare age cheap and less sophisticated tanks with no heavy APU supported network centric warfare abiltiy and no armor protection are just sitting ducks.And extra 10 km per hour speeds mattered in World world war two era.Now the most potent enemy of the tank is attack helicopter so extra 10 km per hour ground covering ability wont get you anywhere.
If covering ground and extra 10 km per hour speed is so important today why does the T-90 weighs more than the T-72?
Now with highly accurate FCS of today , it is a laughable info to dish out a tank with extra 10 km per hour speed has an advantage because of it.
With lesser ground pressure ARJUN is the best option across the whole of india's western setor of desserts in rajasthan and slushy fields of punjab.
Indian army realized it and that's why they shelved a fantasy called 55 ton FMBT and quietly accepted that ARJUN mk-2 ,mk-3 will be the main MBTs of the future.
首先，在当今世界上不存在大马力坦克和小马力坦克，只有装甲保护最佳、能够在行进中精准射击、通过网络中心战争能力协同作战区内其他资源打击远程目标，并拥有高度复杂的主动保护系统的主战坦克，这些都需要重型发电机组和空间以及乘员防护和弹药独立存储。因此，阿琼就是按照这一标准设计的。
在这个弹道稳定脱壳穿甲弹时代，这种分析已经不再适用。现在只有两种类型的坦克：能够承受打击并在更远的距离上精确射击和消灭较差装甲的坦克和其他目标。
在这个信息战时代，没有重型发电机支持的网络中心战争能力和没有装甲防护的廉价、不太复杂的坦克只是被动等待被击毁的目标。而且现在，攻击直升机是坦克最强有力的敌人，所以额外的10公里/小时行进速度并不会有太大的作用。
如果如今行进速度和覆盖地面距离如此重要，为什么T-90的重量比T-72还要重呢？
现在随着高精度FCS的出现，认为额外的10公里/小时行进速度会带来优势已经是可笑的说法。
在较小的地面压力下，阿琼是在印度整个西部沙漠地区和旁遮普邦的泥泞田野中的最佳选择。
印度军方已经意识到这一点，这就是为什么他们搁置了一种叫做55吨FMBT的幻想，默默地接受了阿琼Mk-2、Mk-3将成为未来的主力主战坦克。
Somizulfi
Arjuns and mostly any tanks are gonna eat shit. India is no Russia(weaker) and Pakistan is no Ukraine(stronger).
阿琼坦克和大多数其他坦克都将失去作用。印度不是俄罗斯（更弱），巴基斯坦也不是乌克兰（更强）。
ChonkyThicc
Type 99A is better, but Arjun is the strongest tank in the world!!!!
99A式更好，但阿琼是世界上最强的坦克！！
Metzger4
Interesting the Indians are still using soviet style helmets.
有趣的是印度人仍在使用苏联式头盔。
loghead03
Soft helmets are actually fantastic in a tank. They’re comfortable, low profile for the tight confines of a tank, protect you from most of the bumps you’ll encounter inside the vehicle, and hold a comm set nicely.
软头盔实际上在坦克中非常好。它们舒适，在坦克内狭小的空间中低调，可以保护你免受车内大部分颠簸，也能良好固定通讯设备。
templar54
Can someone explain to me where is this high praise for the Chinese tank coming from?
有人能解释一下为什么对中国坦克如此高度评价吗？
murkskopf
Because Chinese tanks are rather competent. In many aspects they are (or were until the introduction of the T-90M) more advanced than Russia's main battle tanks.
Before 1989, China heavily cooperated with the West in regards of tank technology. The purchased British fire control systems, worked on tank upgrades in joint-ventures with the American company Cadilage Gage and the British Royal Ordnance Factories. Gun technology and APFSDS rounds were also imported (from Austria and Israel).
因为中国的坦克相当有竞争力。在许多方面，它们比俄罗斯的主战坦克更先进（直到T-90M的推出）。
在1989年之前，中国在坦克技术方面与西方密切合作。他们购买了英国的火控系统，与美国公司Cadilage Gage和英国皇家军械厂共同开发了坦克升级技术。炮技术和穿甲弹也是进口的（来自奥地利和以色列）。
stick_always_wins
It looks sexy af. The turret shape + digital camo is very attractive. It’s also based on a proven design and combines both Eastern & Western elements. +Arjun sets the bar so low that anything looks much better in comparison.
它看起来非常性感。炮塔形状和数字迷彩非常吸引人。它还基于经过验证的设计，结合了东西方的元素。+阿琼将标准降至了一个很低的水平，因此与之相比，任何东西看起来都更好。
Savings-Secretary-78
Arjun doesn't have an autoloader, it has a separate blowout panel, so the turret is safe,
阿琼没有自动装弹机，它有一个独立的爆炸孔板，所以炮塔是安全的。
woolcoat
Why even put these two side by side. Feels bad for Arjun.
为什么要把这两个放在一起比较。对阿琼来说感觉很糟糕。
_lnaccurate_
Type 99 for aestetics, does Arjun even have reverse speed?
Type 99看起来好看，阿琼甚至有倒车速度吗？
speedyboi696969
Whenever I see the word arjun my brain always corrects it to my real name because my name is very similar
每当我看到阿琼这个词，我的大脑总是把它改成我的真名，因为我的名字非常相似
awirelesspro
The rifled gun is the main issue with Arjun.
炮管是阿琼的主要问题。
Laspheryys
Type 99 actually looks really good compared to other Soviet designs
与其他苏联设计相比，99式实际上看起来非常好。
Consistent_Cause_131
India and China should work together, with the amount of Hate West has for both countries. It's time both nations join hands and work for a common cause. India should never fight with China and vice versa
印度和中国应该共同努力，因为西方对两个国家的仇恨很深。现在是两个国家携手为共同事业而工作的时候了。印度永远不应该和中国发生冲突，反之亦然。
Parad0x17
Arjun looks outdated.
阿琼看起来过时了。
ELTURO3344
M1 Abrams
Looks like it's made of Lagos Edit: Legos
M1艾布拉姆斯看起来像乐高积木制成的 编辑：乐高积木
mysterious_Bulgarian
Arjun looks kinda like its madenin minecraft
阿琼看起来有点像在Minecraft中制作的。
FlashingNova
Nobody is gonna mention the C U M ammunition's? really?
没有人会提到C U M弹药吗？真的吗？
Vietnugget
Germany: want to buy leopard2?
India: no. But we want to purchase parts of it over the course of several year and reassemble it as the most expensive tank in the world.
Germany: k
德国：想要购买Leopard2吗？
印度：不。但我们想在几年内购买它的部件，并将其重新组装成世界上最昂贵的坦克。
德国：好的。
