Quora讨论:如果俄罗斯打赢了乌克兰会怎样，什么情况下北约会直接参战

What happens if Russia wins the war in Ukraine? What are the chances that NATO will directly be involved?

如果俄罗斯打赢了乌克兰会怎样，什么情况下北约会直接参战？

Kanthaswamy Bsubrniam

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What is the worst that could possibly happen if NATO joins the war in Ukraine ag inst Russia?

You ask for the Worst

The Worst of course is a Nuclear War

你问的不太吉利啊

那会是最糟糕的情况——核战争
 

Countries that would be Obliterated:-

Belarus - OBLITERATED

Poland - OBLITERATED

Ukraine - OBLITERATED

Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia - OBLITERATED

会从地图上消失的国家：

白俄罗斯——消失

波兰——消失

乌克兰——消失

拉脱维亚、立陶宛、爱沙尼亚——通通消失
 

Countries that would never recover again:-

France - 2.5 Million Dead, 10 Million Affected, $ 5 Trillion in Economic and Property Dge

UK - 25% Obliterated

Germany - 4 Million Dead, 15 Million Affected, $ 8 Trillion in Economic and Property Dge

Canada - 1.4 Million Dead, 7 Million Affected, $ 2.1 Trillion in Economic and Property Dge

从此一蹶不振的国家：

法国——死亡人数250万，受灾人数1000万，经济和财产损失5万亿美元；

英国——摧毁25%；

德国——死亡人数400万，受灾人数1500万，经济和财产损失8万亿美元；

加拿大——死亡人数140万，受灾人数700万，经济和财产损失2.1万亿美元；
 

United States:-

Alaska - OBLITERATED

New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia including Washington DC - Between 26% to 100% Obliterated

Georgia, Florida, Texas, Louisana - Between 5% to 40% Obliterated

Michigan, Illinois and Ohio - Between 0% to 15% Obliterated

Other States would be reasonably untouched

Estimated - 38 Million Dead, 80 Million Affected and $ 274 Trillion in Economic Dges especially with NYSE and NASDAQ and Wall Street gone.

美国：

阿拉斯加——消失

纽约，宾夕法尼亚，弗吉尼亚，包括华盛顿特区——摧毁26%到100%

乔治亚州、佛罗里达州、德克萨斯州、路易斯安那州——摧毁5%到40%

密歇根，伊利诺斯州和俄亥俄州——摧毁0%到15%

其他州不会受影响

估计—— 死亡人数3800万，受灾人数8000万，经济损失274万亿美元，尤其是纽约证券交易所、纳斯达克和华尔街将消失。
 

Countries suffering from Radiation Fallout:-

Finland , Sweden, Denmark - Radiation Fallout

Switzerland - Radiation Fallout

Italy, Greece, Vatican City - Radiation Fallout

Economic Dge - $442 Trillion in Properties, Savings, Investments and obliteration of Nations

Human losses - 60 Million Dead, 210 Million affected, Pentially 300 Million affected by Radiation Fallout

EStimated Warheads - 2400 Launched, 480 Hit Targets, 1920 Intercepted

受到核辐射沉降物影响的国家：

芬兰，瑞典，丹麦——核辐射沉降物

瑞士——核辐射沉降物

意大利，希腊，梵蒂冈城——核辐射沉降物

经济损失——财产、存款、投资损失442万亿，国家毁灭

人员损失：死亡人数6000万，受灾人数2.1亿人，约3亿人受到核辐射沉降物的影响

核弹头估算——发射2400枚，命中目标480枚，拦截1920枚
 

ASIA:-

Japan forced to sue for Peace with China

Australia sues for Peace with China

India, Pakistan, China sign a peace pact to avoid Nuclear War

亚洲：

日本被迫向中国求和

澳大利亚向中国求和

印度，巴基斯坦，中国签署和平协议，避免核战争
 

AFRICA:-

Unaffected

非洲：

不受影响
 

SOUTH AMERICA:-

Unaffected

南美洲：

不受影响
 

New USA would have 46–49 States with $ 9.4 Trillion GDP and 251 Million Population with 53% Nuclear Capacity gone and Nuclear Radiation Fallout in 16 States causing Mass Migration and Exodus

新美国会有46-49个州，GDP规模9.4万亿美元，人口2.51亿，53%的核武器摧毁，16个州的核辐射造成大规模移民和民众外逃。


Mike Webster

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Can Russia win this war with Ukraine, in view of the overwhelming support of NATO?

Russia lost their illegal war the moment they started it. They never had a chance at wng. They have constantly been moving the goalposts back further and further as the continue to lose. They foolishly thought they would conquer Ukraine within days and overt ow their go nment. Now they are struggling to even take and hold tiny bits of eastern territory after having had their asses kicked in and around Kyiv and other parts of the country.

俄罗斯在发动战争的那一刻就输了。他们从来没有机会打赢战争，他们只会越陷越深。他们愚蠢地认为他们可以在几天内征服乌克兰并*乌克兰政府。

但现在，他们在基辅和乌克兰其他地区被打得鼻青脸肿，为了占领和守住东部的一小块领土苦苦挣扎。

Howard John Goodisson

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If Russia wins the war with Ukraine, how will NATO react?

The Ukrainian armed forces are wearing the Russians down, the Russians when they do grow a pair will overt ow their current dic or and their military will withdraw with their tails between their legs.

When this occurs, Ukraine will be fast tracked into both NATO and the EU, Russia will remain in recession for at least a decade or more

乌克兰武装力量正在磋磨俄罗斯人，俄罗斯人会*他们现在的领导人，军队会夹着尾巴撤退。

等到那个时候，乌克兰将迅速加入北约和欧盟，俄罗斯至少在未来10年或更长时间内处于衰退之中。

Ross Cohen

B.A. in History & Po itical ScienceAuthor has 2.3K answers and 14.9M answer viewsMar 11

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Would a general war between NATO and Russia be any worse for Ukraine than the current situation?

Armed conflict between major nuclear powers drtically raise the chances of nuclear war, and nuclear war would be bad for everyone on the planet, Ukraine included.

Neighboring Poland would be far less safe for Ukrainian refugees and far less able to render the assistance they’ve been providing thus far.

Military aid currently flowing from NATO to Ukraine could be slowed as NATO attention and resources would suddenly be divided among other pressing defense priorities.

You could argue some things could benefit Ukraine, such as an extremely powerful alliance fighting on their side, distracting and destroying their common enemy, but you can’t really get past #1 above. The increased possibility of global annihilation ought to be enough to settle the debate.

全球几个主要核武器大国之间的武装冲突极大地增加了核战争的可能性，而核战争对地球上的每个人来说都绝不是好事，乌克兰也不例外。

对于乌克兰难民来说，邻国波兰的安全性将大大降低，能提供的援助也将大大减少。

目前北约向乌克兰提供的军事援助可能会减少，因为北约的注意力和资源会迅速分配到其他更为紧迫的国防事务上。

你可能会说，乌克兰在有些事上会受益，比如拥有了一个非常强大的并肩作战的联盟，摧毁他们的共同敌人，但上述第一点是避不开的。全球毁灭的可能性应该足以终止这场争论。

Brent Cooper

Trial and appellate counsel for Cooper & Scully (1993–present)Author has 7.6K answers and 387.6M answer viewsMay 1

Militarily, none. If Russia wins look for Sweden and Finland to speed up their applications for NATO.

But the country in the most trouble will be Moldova. No doubt she will try to get an expedited application through because she is next on Putin’s list if he is somehow able to defeat Ukraine.

军事上不会的。如果俄罗斯获胜，瑞典和芬兰必然会加快加入北约的脚步。

最麻烦的国家会是摩尔多瓦。摩尔多瓦会毫无悬念地加快申请加入北约的申请进程，因为如果普京能够击败乌克兰，摩尔多瓦就是普京名单上的下一个打击目标。

Jay Bazzinotti

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If Russia wins the war ag inst Ukraine, what will NATO and its allies do?

I would imagine they will support ongoing insurrection, sabotage and assassination of Russians within the country. It’s one thing to conquer a nation as big as the Ukraine - it’s another to hold it. The Germans tried and they failed. And they had a REAL army with REAL soldiers.

我想他们会在俄罗斯境内支持叛乱，破坏和暗杀。征服乌克兰这么大的国家是一回事，守住它又是另一回事。德国人曾经尝试过，可惜以失败告终。德国可是拥有真军队和真士兵的国家呢。

Caliell

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If Russia can’t defeat Ukraine, how could they win a war with NATO?

Which kind of war are we talking about? While NATO will highly likely win the conflict with Russia, when it comes to nuclear wons involved…. unfortunately, no clear winner will be alive to answer this question.

我们现在谈论的是哪种战争？虽然北约很有可能打赢俄罗斯，但如果核武器派上场....那么很不幸，没有人能活着回答这个问题。

Adi C.

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If war breaks out between Ukraine and Russia, should the United States or NATO get involved?

Ukraine is not part of NATO and their alliance with the United States is not nearly as strong as the U.S. - Japan or U.S. - ROK alliances. Therefore, the idea of sending American troops to defend Ukraine is questionable.

The U.S. considers Ukraine somewhat important, but Ukraine is not a core interest. The U.S. will not get into a direct confrontation with Russia unless a very important core interest is threatened and there a solid level of public support for such a decision.

乌克兰现在还不是北约的一员，他们与美国的结盟也远不如美日或美韩同盟那么坚实。因此，美国不太可能派出军队保卫乌克兰。

美国认为乌克兰有几分重要，但毕竟不是核心利益。除非美国非常核心的利益受到威胁，而且得到公众的大力支持，否则美国不会与俄罗斯直接开战。
 

The kind of military assistance Secretary Pompeo pledged probably involves wons sales, intelligence sharing, black ops, air & space surveillance, and diplomatic and economic pressure on Russia.

If Ukraine goes to war with Russia, the U.S. will provide limited assistance. However, it is highly unlikely that we will go to war with the 2nd most powerful country in the world over a more or less insignificant country. Ukraine’s leaders have been untrustworthy in the past and putting our eggs in their basket is not prudent. The best way to stop a possibly horrific Russo-Ukrainian war is to make Russia’s constant encroachments and harassment of Ukraine unacceptably expensive and difficult.

蓬佩奥国务卿承诺过的军事援助可能包含武器销售、情报共享、秘密行动、空中和太空监视，以及对俄罗斯施加外交和经济压力。

如果乌克兰与俄罗斯开战，美国提供的援助会很有限。但我们不太可能为了一个微不足道的国家就跟世界上第二强大的国家开战。

乌克兰领导人一直都靠不住，把我们的鸡蛋放到他们的篮子里，可不是个好主意。

阻止这场俄乌战争的最佳方法，是让俄罗斯为骚扰乌克兰付出难以承受的代价。