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2025-11-15
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网友：你们忘了日本吗？日本只是美国黑石集团旗下的一个公司而不是一个国家，就像300多年前英国去印度时一样。
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@douglaswong6975
You guys forgotten something about Japan? Japan is a company of America Black Rock, not a country, just like 300 hundreds years ago when the United kingdom went to India
你们忘了日本吗？日本只是美国黑石集团旗下的一个公司而不是一个国家，就像300多年前英国去印度时一样。
@hongqi5734
Spot on. The US moved its industry to Japan during the 60s and did the same with Korea. Samsung and other Korean names are practically US companies.
说得好哇。美国在上世纪60年代将其工业转移到了日本，韩国也是如此。三星和其他韩国公司实际上就是美国公司。
@RyanHillier
Every time I watch Geopolitical Economy Hour, I am blown away by the generosity and dedication of Radhika, Michael, Ben and everyone involved. Your insights via this platform and format with the simple goal of expanding human understanding about the world in which we live is nothing short of remarkable. Thank you.
每次观看Geopolitical Economy（这个频道的名字）一小时，我都会被Radhika、Michael、Ben以及所有相关人员的慷慨和奉献精神所折服。你们通过这一平台和形式以扩大人类对我们所生活的世界的了解这一简单目标而提出的真知灼见堪称非凡。谢谢你们。
@Leila-sd1sl
Agreed. Rare gems. They’re real journalists with integrity, obxtivity stating facts without establishment propaganda, gaslighting and dumbing down.
我同意。他们是稀世珍宝，他们是真正的记者，他们正直、客观地陈述事实，没有机构宣传、煤气灯效应（是指对受害者施加的情感虐待和操控，让受害者逐渐丧失自尊，产生自我怀疑，无法逃脱）和愚弄。
@PerceivedREALITY999
China has the greatest manufacturing capacity. US has the greatest clown production capacity.
中国拥有最大的制造能力。美国拥有最大的小丑生产能力。
@sinic1978
The US is the world's largest debt producer.
美国是世界上最大的债务生产国。
@user-dw4qn3zc3m
You guys have been great! You are intelligent, expert, and obxtive on the world economy and geopolitics. China's economy has been growing in the last few decades and will continue to grow in the future. Thank you for showing us the truth so we have a realistic picture of China and the world's economies.
你们一直都很棒！在世界经济和地缘政治方面，你们智慧、专业、客观。过去几十年来，中国经济一直在增长，未来也将继续增长。感谢你们向我们展示真相，让我们对中国和世界经济有一个真实的了解。
@PerceivedREALITY999
US wanted to make a fool out of China. But instead, the US made a fool of itself. Let that be a lesson.
美国想让中国出丑。但相反，美国却出了自己的洋相。让我们以此为鉴吧。
@MrGadfly772
The western view of China experiencing "Japanification" is based more racist assumptions than it is based on rational analysis.
西方对中国经历"日本化"的看法与其说是基于理性分析，不如说是基于种族主义假设。
@walhdamaskus2408
What happen now in tye west is a real time japanification.
现在发生在西方的事情就是一场真正的"日本化"。
@jackmartin9435
So it's essentially the same question as "Why is Haiti so poor?' or "Why does Cuba need help?"
(The West robbed them.) China right now is "the big one that got away."
这个问题与"为什么海地如此贫穷？"或"为什么古巴需要帮助？"在本质上是一样的(西方抢劫了他们）。中国现在是"逃掉的那个大家伙"。
@cheezeckez6843
Yes. China was able to grow from adversity.
是的。中国能够在逆境中发展起来。
@ZweiZwolf
America wishes that China would experience "Lost Decades" of economic stagnation, but that is unlikely. Unlike Japan, China has a massive domestic consumer market, low labor costs relative to the West, and a huge rural population that they can urbanize for higher national productivity. Plus, China is extremely well-integrated into the global economy, not being dependent upon the US market. If China's aggregate GDP were to double overnight, China's per capita GDP would still be half that of the USA, so they still have huge room for growth for the next several decades.
美国希望中国经历经济停滞的"失去的十年"，但这不太可能。与日本不同，中国拥有庞大的国内消费市场，其劳动力成本相对西方较低，而且农村人口众多，它可以通过城市化来提高国民生产力。 此外，中国与全球经济的融合度极高，它并不依赖美国市场。如果中国的GDP总量在一夜之间翻一番，中国的人均GDP仍将只有美国的一半，因此在未来几十年，中国仍有巨大的增长空间。
@walking_luggage8105
Actually it is the west that is experiencing the "Japanification" of economy.
事实上，西方正在经历经济的"日本化"。
@vitorlima1092
Nice tô meet you! Thank you from Brazil!
很高兴见到你，谢谢，我来自巴西！
@dannydenison6253
Brazil is such a great leader of the times. I hope to continue seeing your country shine and stand up against colonialism, while helping the rest of the global south prosper. (From a US citizen who is ashamed of my country, and looking for the next really opportunity to change it.)
巴西是如此伟大的时代领袖，我希望能继续看到贵国大放异彩，挺身反抗殖民主义，同时帮助全球其他南方国家繁荣昌盛(来自一个为我的国家感到羞耻，并寻找下一个真正改变它的机会的美国公民）。
@apoena-allnitemusic7203
Me too Brazilian. We need to debate maintenance of power in Brazil. Reactionary voices speak so loud in Brazilian media and social media that is hard to foreseen future where a left wing government will have time to do something for our country. We need severe laws against fake news.
我也是巴西人。我们需要讨论巴西的权力维持问题，巴西媒体和社交媒体上的反动声音如此之大，以至于很难预见未来左翼政府会有时间为我们的国家做些什么。我们需要严厉打击假新闻的法律。
@marcelo55869
@dannydenison6253 saddly Brazil's leadership is at the mercy of the party at the power in the moment. We just dodged a coup last year.
Our country has many fascists lurking around just waiting for an opportunity to jump in. Keep your eyes open everyone
@dannydenison6253 可悲的是巴西的领导层任由当下掌权的政党摆布，我们去年刚刚躲过了一场政变。
我们的国家潜伏着许多法西斯分子，他们正伺机而动，大家要睁大眼睛。
@user-ed9so2rb4k
@apoena-allnitemusic7203 , In many "developing" economies, strong and well intentioned leaders are vital. Just take Singapore as an example, when the late LEE shed tears when Singapore was evicted from the Malaysian Federation but he then went ahead to provide the tiny state a way forward with steel leadership which the West was not comfortable with, in fact calling him a dictator but he did it " My Way!" with Singapore being one of the richest per capital in the world. It is clear that benevolent but even dictatorial leadership may be required!
@apoena-allnitemusic7203，在许多"发展中"经济体中，强有力且用心良苦的领导人至关重要。仅以新加坡为例，已故的李显龙在新加坡被逐出马来西亚联邦时流下了眼泪，但他随后以钢铁般的领导力为这个小国指明了前进的道路，西方国家对此并不满意，事实上它们称他为DC者，但他以"我的方式"做到了这一点，现在新加坡是世界上人均最富有的国家之一。显然，新加坡需要仁慈甚至DC的领导者！
@xye-NYC
@user-ed9so2rb4k I agree with most of what you said except for the dictator part. Lee was a great leader, not dictator. He explained his policies to the people instead of just dictating them.
@user-ed9so2rb4k 我同意你说的大部分内容，除了DC者那部分。李光耀是一位伟大的领袖而不是DC者，他向人民解释了他的政策而不是一味地发号施令。
@williamc9578
Such clarity, backed with a wealth of data, and tackling head-on the critical questions regarding China's structural transition amidst a titanic struggle against US containment and technology embargo. There's incessant voodoo and hexxing from the Western media, 'analysts', trolls and commentators about China's imminent collapse, and this fact-based assessment across a wide variety of domains and perspectives is really useful.
Thank you.
这种清晰性得到了大量数据的支持，并在与美国遏制和技术禁运的巨大斗争中正面解决了有关中国结构转型的关键问题。西方媒体、"分析师"、巨头和评论家们对中国即将崩溃的胡言乱语不绝于耳，而这种基于事实的评估涵盖了广泛的领域和视角，确实非常有用。
谢谢。
@ComedyTalent2001
GEOPOLITICAL ECONOMY REPORT is absolutely the Most informed, well analyzed with comprehensive data that supports their findings!
With their analysis, the world can learn from China and apply some of its strategies to be used in their respective countries, for example, what strategies used to remove poverty; apply and implement them for our own country!
As a Canadian, I wish our Leaders can put aside their bias and start focusing on our own people’s needs, and using some of the strategies China is using to help our own citizens!
GEOPOLITICAL ECONOMY REPORT这个频道绝对是信息最灵通、分析最透彻、数据最全面的！
通过他们的分析，世界可以向中国学习并将中国的一些战略应用到各自的国家，例如，用什么战略来消除贫困以及在我们自己的国家应用和实施这些战略！
作为一名加拿大人，我希望我们的领导人能够放下偏见，开始关注我们本国人民的需求并利用中国正在使用的一些战略来帮助我们自己的公民！
@EamonCoyle
The whole thing about China crippling the developing the world with debt is the ultimate in neo-colonial double standards given the reason for the 4 plus decades of stagnation in the African Continent was the result of them being shackled by debt from Western powers. Botswana the perfect outlier that exemplifies the point, they were one of the least developed nations in Africa and recorded the best continued growth of the Continent during the same period by not taking on debt !!
非洲大陆40多年来停滞不前的原因是被西方列强的债务束缚住了手脚，关于中国用债务削弱发展中国家的说法是新殖民主义双重标准的终极体现。博茨瓦纳就是一个很好的例子，它是非洲最不发达的国家之一，但在同一时期，由于不举债，它的持续增长在非洲大陆名列前茅！
@sbkarajan
I think the main difference between China and Japan is that China has a lot of nukes.
So, Japan is a complete vessel state of the US.
Perhaps, Japan is still paying the US some money, like old colonies did to England.
我认为中国和日本的主要区别在于中国拥有大量的核武器。
所以，日本完全是美国的一个血包。
或许，日本仍在向美国支付一些钱，就像旧殖民地对英国那样。
@jeffreyestrada5935
Thank you for helping me to better understand China's economic policy. It seems China strives to adhere to the mandate of Heaven, that is Harmony. US seems to strive to adhere to the mandate of Hell, that is chaos.
感谢您帮助我更好地理解了中国的经济政策。 中国似乎在努力遵循"天命"（即"和谐"），而美国似乎在努力遵循地狱的使命（即制造混乱）。
@xaesvanex4437
Excellent work as usual and I am very glad that they addressed the significant different definition of China's use of the word "globalization" like it could be clearly seen in their paper "A Global Community of Shared Future: China’s Proposals and Actions". This is something that more academics should definitely pay more attention to and take into consideration in the future when talking about the world's economic relations instead of surrendering themselves to solely use the meaning of Neoliberal schools of thought or the various other nebulous meanings in social sciences regarding this concept.
一如既往的出色工作，我很高兴他们谈到了中国在使用"全球化"一词时的重大不同定义，这在他们的论文"全球命运共同体：中国的提议和行动"中可以清楚地看到。今后，更多的学者在谈论世界经济关系时，一定要更多地关注和考虑这一点，而不是自暴自弃地仅仅使用新自由主义学派的含义或社会科学中有关这一概念的其他各种模糊的含义来看待经济关系。
@Userkzb20253
China has prepared itself for transitioning its next phase of [advanced] economy that its economy is about to collapse is laughable. It may suffer a serious setback during the phase transition is however quite possible. No economy can escape the ups and downs of economic cycles.
中国已经为下一阶段的[先进]经济转型做好了准备，说中国经济即将崩溃是可笑的。然而，中国经济在阶段过渡期间遭受严重挫折是完全有可能的，因为所有的经济体都无法逃脱经济周期的起伏。
@michaels4255
just a "serious setback" - LOL, this reminds me of when Herbert Hoover said the economy was not in a crisis or a panic, merely a "depression."
只是"严重挫折"--哈哈哈哈，这让我想起了赫伯特-胡佛说的美国经济没有陷入危机或恐慌，而只是有些"萧条"。
@user-je8le4ms4d
Thanks to all of you, brilliant well documented to the point presentation. I am Greek, and talking about western debt traps the debt of Greece created by IMF and European Central Bank according to the Data that Professor Radhika Desai presented is bigger than the debt of the whole African continent. Of course the same privatizations of state property were enforced by IMF to Greece, shrinking its economy. There are also the European unxs neocolonial policies towards the periphery, which turned Greece into a tourist monoculture. This debt shrunk the greek economy by at least 30% and caused huge migration and loss of workforce. The hypocricy of the West is immeasurable when they talk about Chinese debt trap.
谢谢你们所有人精彩的，有理有据的发言，你们的发言一针见血。我是希腊人，谈到西方债务陷阱，根据拉迪卡-德赛教授提供的数据，国际货币基金组织和欧洲中央银行为希腊创造的债务比整个非洲大陆的债务还要多。当然，国际货币基金组织也对希腊实施了国有财产私有化并导致希腊经济萎缩。此外，欧盟还对希腊周边地区实施新殖民主义政策，将希腊变成了一个单一化的旅游国家。这些债务使希腊经济萎缩了至少30%，并造成大量移民和劳动力流失。当西方国家谈论中国的债务陷阱时，他们的虚伪程度是无法估量的。
@redcapybara1213
mick seems like the sweetest guy, such a refreshing scholar that doesn’t sound so full of themselves
Michael看起来是最可爱的人，这样的学者让人耳目一新，听起来也不那么自负。
@theinfralix6598
Great technical analysis. Watched it from beginning till the end. The West is trying to construct a two-phase narrative on China’s economy. First it advocates China is about to collapse economically. When that fails they will argue that China’s consumption is weak. It is over investing in building surplus capacities and trying to export its way out of trouble. What it will never admit is that China is undergoing a structural revolution to a much higher tech AI based green economy. The key question here is what it means for job creation and how this will spill over to all sectors of the economy.
精彩的技术分析，我从头到尾看了一遍。西方正试图对中国经济构建一个两阶段的叙述。首先，他们鼓吹中国经济即将崩溃。当这一举措失败时，他们会辩称中国消费疲软，它过度投资建设剩余产能并试图通过出口摆脱困境。他们永远不会承认的是中国正在经历一场结构性革命并向以高科技人工智能为基础的绿色经济转型。这里的关键问题是这对创造就业意味着什么以及它将如何波及所有的经济部门。
@Lyra0966
Radhika's point about the western conception of harmony - it being a good that emerges from free markets - is well made. The argument that unbridled capitalism will produce harmony and peace is about as compelling as the argument that "wealth will trickle down" to the less well off. The latter claim was repeatedly made during the firsts decades of the neo-liberal era, and has since been exposed as an absolutely fraudulent one.
Radhika关于西方的和谐概念--和谐是自由市场带来的好处--的观点很有道理。肆无忌惮的资本主义会带来和谐与和平的论点与"财富会向下淌"到不富裕阶层的论点一样不令人信服，后一种说法在新自由主义时代的头几十年里屡屡出现，但后来被揭露为绝对的骗局。
@pharodrigues1
Excellent! Congratulations, I am used to read you both, I have most of your books, but I didn't know Mick Dunford. Thank you very much.
好极了！祝贺你们！我习惯于阅读你们两位的作品，你们的大部分作品我都有，但我不了解Mick Dunford。非常感谢。
@luapkajlim1551
Radhika and Michael are the GOAT. I remember in the 80s and 90s when I was studying economics as an undergraduate I came with the idea the manufacturing economies showed capitalism’s progressive face and financialism and service (servile) economy showed capitalism’s retrograde, premodern face. Of course, my thinking was not developed or sophisticated enough as an undergraduate to carry the argument through and I was shot down in flames by my professors. Now I see that these ideas are being developed into a powerful critique and I am so chuffed to see that others are succeeding where I didn’t. The vital ingredient I didn’t have then was a developed view of imperialism.
Radhika和Michael是最棒的。我记得在上世纪八九十年代，当我在本科学习经济学时，我曾提出这样一个观点：制造业经济展现了资本主义的进步面貌，而金融主义和服务（奴役）经济则展现了资本主义的倒退和前现代面貌。当然，作为本科生，我的思维还不够发达和成熟，无法将这一论点贯彻到底，因此被教授们一棍子打死。现在，我看到这些观点被发展成一种强有力的批判，看到别人在我没有成功的地方取得了成功，我感到非常高兴。我当时所不具备的重要因素就是对帝国主义的深刻认识。
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You guys forgotten something about Japan? Japan is a company of America Black Rock, not a country, just like 300 hundreds years ago when the United kingdom went to India
你们忘了日本吗？日本只是美国黑石集团旗下的一个公司而不是一个国家，就像300多年前英国去印度时一样。
@hongqi5734
Spot on. The US moved its industry to Japan during the 60s and did the same with Korea. Samsung and other Korean names are practically US companies.
说得好哇。美国在上世纪60年代将其工业转移到了日本，韩国也是如此。三星和其他韩国公司实际上就是美国公司。
@RyanHillier
Every time I watch Geopolitical Economy Hour, I am blown away by the generosity and dedication of Radhika, Michael, Ben and everyone involved. Your insights via this platform and format with the simple goal of expanding human understanding about the world in which we live is nothing short of remarkable. Thank you.
每次观看Geopolitical Economy（这个频道的名字）一小时，我都会被Radhika、Michael、Ben以及所有相关人员的慷慨和奉献精神所折服。你们通过这一平台和形式以扩大人类对我们所生活的世界的了解这一简单目标而提出的真知灼见堪称非凡。谢谢你们。
@Leila-sd1sl
Agreed. Rare gems. They’re real journalists with integrity, obxtivity stating facts without establishment propaganda, gaslighting and dumbing down.
我同意。他们是稀世珍宝，他们是真正的记者，他们正直、客观地陈述事实，没有机构宣传、煤气灯效应（是指对受害者施加的情感虐待和操控，让受害者逐渐丧失自尊，产生自我怀疑，无法逃脱）和愚弄。
@PerceivedREALITY999
China has the greatest manufacturing capacity. US has the greatest clown production capacity.
中国拥有最大的制造能力。美国拥有最大的小丑生产能力。
@sinic1978
The US is the world's largest debt producer.
美国是世界上最大的债务生产国。
@user-dw4qn3zc3m
You guys have been great! You are intelligent, expert, and obxtive on the world economy and geopolitics. China's economy has been growing in the last few decades and will continue to grow in the future. Thank you for showing us the truth so we have a realistic picture of China and the world's economies.
你们一直都很棒！在世界经济和地缘政治方面，你们智慧、专业、客观。过去几十年来，中国经济一直在增长，未来也将继续增长。感谢你们向我们展示真相，让我们对中国和世界经济有一个真实的了解。
@PerceivedREALITY999
US wanted to make a fool out of China. But instead, the US made a fool of itself. Let that be a lesson.
美国想让中国出丑。但相反，美国却出了自己的洋相。让我们以此为鉴吧。
@MrGadfly772
The western view of China experiencing "Japanification" is based more racist assumptions than it is based on rational analysis.
西方对中国经历"日本化"的看法与其说是基于理性分析，不如说是基于种族主义假设。
@walhdamaskus2408
What happen now in tye west is a real time japanification.
现在发生在西方的事情就是一场真正的"日本化"。
@jackmartin9435
So it's essentially the same question as "Why is Haiti so poor?' or "Why does Cuba need help?"
(The West robbed them.) China right now is "the big one that got away."
这个问题与"为什么海地如此贫穷？"或"为什么古巴需要帮助？"在本质上是一样的(西方抢劫了他们）。中国现在是"逃掉的那个大家伙"。
@cheezeckez6843
Yes. China was able to grow from adversity.
是的。中国能够在逆境中发展起来。
@ZweiZwolf
America wishes that China would experience "Lost Decades" of economic stagnation, but that is unlikely. Unlike Japan, China has a massive domestic consumer market, low labor costs relative to the West, and a huge rural population that they can urbanize for higher national productivity. Plus, China is extremely well-integrated into the global economy, not being dependent upon the US market. If China's aggregate GDP were to double overnight, China's per capita GDP would still be half that of the USA, so they still have huge room for growth for the next several decades.
美国希望中国经历经济停滞的"失去的十年"，但这不太可能。与日本不同，中国拥有庞大的国内消费市场，其劳动力成本相对西方较低，而且农村人口众多，它可以通过城市化来提高国民生产力。 此外，中国与全球经济的融合度极高，它并不依赖美国市场。如果中国的GDP总量在一夜之间翻一番，中国的人均GDP仍将只有美国的一半，因此在未来几十年，中国仍有巨大的增长空间。
@walking_luggage8105
Actually it is the west that is experiencing the "Japanification" of economy.
事实上，西方正在经历经济的"日本化"。
@vitorlima1092
Nice tô meet you! Thank you from Brazil!
很高兴见到你，谢谢，我来自巴西！
@dannydenison6253
Brazil is such a great leader of the times. I hope to continue seeing your country shine and stand up against colonialism, while helping the rest of the global south prosper. (From a US citizen who is ashamed of my country, and looking for the next really opportunity to change it.)
巴西是如此伟大的时代领袖，我希望能继续看到贵国大放异彩，挺身反抗殖民主义，同时帮助全球其他南方国家繁荣昌盛(来自一个为我的国家感到羞耻，并寻找下一个真正改变它的机会的美国公民）。
@apoena-allnitemusic7203
Me too Brazilian. We need to debate maintenance of power in Brazil. Reactionary voices speak so loud in Brazilian media and social media that is hard to foreseen future where a left wing government will have time to do something for our country. We need severe laws against fake news.
我也是巴西人。我们需要讨论巴西的权力维持问题，巴西媒体和社交媒体上的反动声音如此之大，以至于很难预见未来左翼政府会有时间为我们的国家做些什么。我们需要严厉打击假新闻的法律。
@marcelo55869
@dannydenison6253 saddly Brazil's leadership is at the mercy of the party at the power in the moment. We just dodged a coup last year.
Our country has many fascists lurking around just waiting for an opportunity to jump in. Keep your eyes open everyone
@dannydenison6253 可悲的是巴西的领导层任由当下掌权的政党摆布，我们去年刚刚躲过了一场政变。
我们的国家潜伏着许多法西斯分子，他们正伺机而动，大家要睁大眼睛。
@user-ed9so2rb4k
@apoena-allnitemusic7203 , In many "developing" economies, strong and well intentioned leaders are vital. Just take Singapore as an example, when the late LEE shed tears when Singapore was evicted from the Malaysian Federation but he then went ahead to provide the tiny state a way forward with steel leadership which the West was not comfortable with, in fact calling him a dictator but he did it " My Way!" with Singapore being one of the richest per capital in the world. It is clear that benevolent but even dictatorial leadership may be required!
@apoena-allnitemusic7203，在许多"发展中"经济体中，强有力且用心良苦的领导人至关重要。仅以新加坡为例，已故的李显龙在新加坡被逐出马来西亚联邦时流下了眼泪，但他随后以钢铁般的领导力为这个小国指明了前进的道路，西方国家对此并不满意，事实上它们称他为DC者，但他以"我的方式"做到了这一点，现在新加坡是世界上人均最富有的国家之一。显然，新加坡需要仁慈甚至DC的领导者！
@xye-NYC
@user-ed9so2rb4k I agree with most of what you said except for the dictator part. Lee was a great leader, not dictator. He explained his policies to the people instead of just dictating them.
@user-ed9so2rb4k 我同意你说的大部分内容，除了DC者那部分。李光耀是一位伟大的领袖而不是DC者，他向人民解释了他的政策而不是一味地发号施令。
@williamc9578
Such clarity, backed with a wealth of data, and tackling head-on the critical questions regarding China's structural transition amidst a titanic struggle against US containment and technology embargo. There's incessant voodoo and hexxing from the Western media, 'analysts', trolls and commentators about China's imminent collapse, and this fact-based assessment across a wide variety of domains and perspectives is really useful.
Thank you.
这种清晰性得到了大量数据的支持，并在与美国遏制和技术禁运的巨大斗争中正面解决了有关中国结构转型的关键问题。西方媒体、"分析师"、巨头和评论家们对中国即将崩溃的胡言乱语不绝于耳，而这种基于事实的评估涵盖了广泛的领域和视角，确实非常有用。
谢谢。
@ComedyTalent2001
GEOPOLITICAL ECONOMY REPORT is absolutely the Most informed, well analyzed with comprehensive data that supports their findings!
With their analysis, the world can learn from China and apply some of its strategies to be used in their respective countries, for example, what strategies used to remove poverty; apply and implement them for our own country!
As a Canadian, I wish our Leaders can put aside their bias and start focusing on our own people’s needs, and using some of the strategies China is using to help our own citizens!
GEOPOLITICAL ECONOMY REPORT这个频道绝对是信息最灵通、分析最透彻、数据最全面的！
通过他们的分析，世界可以向中国学习并将中国的一些战略应用到各自的国家，例如，用什么战略来消除贫困以及在我们自己的国家应用和实施这些战略！
作为一名加拿大人，我希望我们的领导人能够放下偏见，开始关注我们本国人民的需求并利用中国正在使用的一些战略来帮助我们自己的公民！
@EamonCoyle
The whole thing about China crippling the developing the world with debt is the ultimate in neo-colonial double standards given the reason for the 4 plus decades of stagnation in the African Continent was the result of them being shackled by debt from Western powers. Botswana the perfect outlier that exemplifies the point, they were one of the least developed nations in Africa and recorded the best continued growth of the Continent during the same period by not taking on debt !!
非洲大陆40多年来停滞不前的原因是被西方列强的债务束缚住了手脚，关于中国用债务削弱发展中国家的说法是新殖民主义双重标准的终极体现。博茨瓦纳就是一个很好的例子，它是非洲最不发达的国家之一，但在同一时期，由于不举债，它的持续增长在非洲大陆名列前茅！
@sbkarajan
I think the main difference between China and Japan is that China has a lot of nukes.
So, Japan is a complete vessel state of the US.
Perhaps, Japan is still paying the US some money, like old colonies did to England.
我认为中国和日本的主要区别在于中国拥有大量的核武器。
所以，日本完全是美国的一个血包。
或许，日本仍在向美国支付一些钱，就像旧殖民地对英国那样。
@jeffreyestrada5935
Thank you for helping me to better understand China's economic policy. It seems China strives to adhere to the mandate of Heaven, that is Harmony. US seems to strive to adhere to the mandate of Hell, that is chaos.
感谢您帮助我更好地理解了中国的经济政策。 中国似乎在努力遵循"天命"（即"和谐"），而美国似乎在努力遵循地狱的使命（即制造混乱）。
@xaesvanex4437
Excellent work as usual and I am very glad that they addressed the significant different definition of China's use of the word "globalization" like it could be clearly seen in their paper "A Global Community of Shared Future: China’s Proposals and Actions". This is something that more academics should definitely pay more attention to and take into consideration in the future when talking about the world's economic relations instead of surrendering themselves to solely use the meaning of Neoliberal schools of thought or the various other nebulous meanings in social sciences regarding this concept.
一如既往的出色工作，我很高兴他们谈到了中国在使用"全球化"一词时的重大不同定义，这在他们的论文"全球命运共同体：中国的提议和行动"中可以清楚地看到。今后，更多的学者在谈论世界经济关系时，一定要更多地关注和考虑这一点，而不是自暴自弃地仅仅使用新自由主义学派的含义或社会科学中有关这一概念的其他各种模糊的含义来看待经济关系。
@Userkzb20253
China has prepared itself for transitioning its next phase of [advanced] economy that its economy is about to collapse is laughable. It may suffer a serious setback during the phase transition is however quite possible. No economy can escape the ups and downs of economic cycles.
中国已经为下一阶段的[先进]经济转型做好了准备，说中国经济即将崩溃是可笑的。然而，中国经济在阶段过渡期间遭受严重挫折是完全有可能的，因为所有的经济体都无法逃脱经济周期的起伏。
@michaels4255
just a "serious setback" - LOL, this reminds me of when Herbert Hoover said the economy was not in a crisis or a panic, merely a "depression."
只是"严重挫折"--哈哈哈哈，这让我想起了赫伯特-胡佛说的美国经济没有陷入危机或恐慌，而只是有些"萧条"。
@user-je8le4ms4d
Thanks to all of you, brilliant well documented to the point presentation. I am Greek, and talking about western debt traps the debt of Greece created by IMF and European Central Bank according to the Data that Professor Radhika Desai presented is bigger than the debt of the whole African continent. Of course the same privatizations of state property were enforced by IMF to Greece, shrinking its economy. There are also the European unxs neocolonial policies towards the periphery, which turned Greece into a tourist monoculture. This debt shrunk the greek economy by at least 30% and caused huge migration and loss of workforce. The hypocricy of the West is immeasurable when they talk about Chinese debt trap.
谢谢你们所有人精彩的，有理有据的发言，你们的发言一针见血。我是希腊人，谈到西方债务陷阱，根据拉迪卡-德赛教授提供的数据，国际货币基金组织和欧洲中央银行为希腊创造的债务比整个非洲大陆的债务还要多。当然，国际货币基金组织也对希腊实施了国有财产私有化并导致希腊经济萎缩。此外，欧盟还对希腊周边地区实施新殖民主义政策，将希腊变成了一个单一化的旅游国家。这些债务使希腊经济萎缩了至少30%，并造成大量移民和劳动力流失。当西方国家谈论中国的债务陷阱时，他们的虚伪程度是无法估量的。
@redcapybara1213
mick seems like the sweetest guy, such a refreshing scholar that doesn’t sound so full of themselves
Michael看起来是最可爱的人，这样的学者让人耳目一新，听起来也不那么自负。
@theinfralix6598
Great technical analysis. Watched it from beginning till the end. The West is trying to construct a two-phase narrative on China’s economy. First it advocates China is about to collapse economically. When that fails they will argue that China’s consumption is weak. It is over investing in building surplus capacities and trying to export its way out of trouble. What it will never admit is that China is undergoing a structural revolution to a much higher tech AI based green economy. The key question here is what it means for job creation and how this will spill over to all sectors of the economy.
精彩的技术分析，我从头到尾看了一遍。西方正试图对中国经济构建一个两阶段的叙述。首先，他们鼓吹中国经济即将崩溃。当这一举措失败时，他们会辩称中国消费疲软，它过度投资建设剩余产能并试图通过出口摆脱困境。他们永远不会承认的是中国正在经历一场结构性革命并向以高科技人工智能为基础的绿色经济转型。这里的关键问题是这对创造就业意味着什么以及它将如何波及所有的经济部门。
@Lyra0966
Radhika's point about the western conception of harmony - it being a good that emerges from free markets - is well made. The argument that unbridled capitalism will produce harmony and peace is about as compelling as the argument that "wealth will trickle down" to the less well off. The latter claim was repeatedly made during the firsts decades of the neo-liberal era, and has since been exposed as an absolutely fraudulent one.
Radhika关于西方的和谐概念--和谐是自由市场带来的好处--的观点很有道理。肆无忌惮的资本主义会带来和谐与和平的论点与"财富会向下淌"到不富裕阶层的论点一样不令人信服，后一种说法在新自由主义时代的头几十年里屡屡出现，但后来被揭露为绝对的骗局。
@pharodrigues1
Excellent! Congratulations, I am used to read you both, I have most of your books, but I didn't know Mick Dunford. Thank you very much.
好极了！祝贺你们！我习惯于阅读你们两位的作品，你们的大部分作品我都有，但我不了解Mick Dunford。非常感谢。
@luapkajlim1551
Radhika and Michael are the GOAT. I remember in the 80s and 90s when I was studying economics as an undergraduate I came with the idea the manufacturing economies showed capitalism’s progressive face and financialism and service (servile) economy showed capitalism’s retrograde, premodern face. Of course, my thinking was not developed or sophisticated enough as an undergraduate to carry the argument through and I was shot down in flames by my professors. Now I see that these ideas are being developed into a powerful critique and I am so chuffed to see that others are succeeding where I didn’t. The vital ingredient I didn’t have then was a developed view of imperialism.
Radhika和Michael是最棒的。我记得在上世纪八九十年代，当我在本科学习经济学时，我曾提出这样一个观点：制造业经济展现了资本主义的进步面貌，而金融主义和服务（奴役）经济则展现了资本主义的倒退和前现代面貌。当然，作为本科生，我的思维还不够发达和成熟，无法将这一论点贯彻到底，因此被教授们一棍子打死。现在，我看到这些观点被发展成一种强有力的批判，看到别人在我没有成功的地方取得了成功，我感到非常高兴。我当时所不具备的重要因素就是对帝国主义的深刻认识。
