Do fish get bored living in an aquarium for all of their life?
鱼一辈子都生活在鱼缸里会感到烦闷吗？
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Do fish get bored living in an aquarium for all of their life?
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我认为我们可能倾向于将动物的“情绪”和心理拟人化，以便与它们产生共鸣。他们和我们一样感到“烦闷”吗？ 我女儿经常问我，某个特定的动物是否“聪明”，我回答她说，每一种生物都以其自身的方式表现出难以置信的聪明，这与我们的方式非常不同——在许多方面我们都不理解。 鱼缸里的鱼由于被囚禁，它们的本能行为受到了极大的压抑。这也让他们困惑吗？
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Do fish get bored living in an aquarium for all of their life?
鱼一辈子都生活在鱼缸里会感到烦闷吗？
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Seanna Whitt
I think we might have a tendency to anthropomorphize the “emotions” and psychology of animals often in an effort to empathize with them. Do they share our feelings of “boredom”?
My daughter often asks me if a given animal is “smart”, and I respond to her that every creature is incredibly smart in their own ways, which are very different from ours- in many ways that we don't understand.
Aquarium fish are in a position where their instinctual behavior is pretty oppressed because of captivity. Is this confusing to them too?
I've kept an aquarium for four years now and I"ve wondered the same thing. To this extent, I research and try to maintain my tank to mimic as much of their natural environment (wood, sand,gravel, different size rocks, varieties of different plants,etc.) with nooks and crevices- but the distortion and barrier of glass walls, filters, water quality…. Okay, so boredom:
Every week or two I move things around in the tank, add something new or take something out- in their natural environment they’ve never ‘stepped in the same river twice’, so I try to rotate their surroundings with the hope that this might help to mimic their ever changing environment in the natural world; for them to hopefully, maybe find some reprieve from the stasis of a tank environment. I also place pictures of aquatic environments on a panel of the tank and change them around occasionally too. Is this guilt or fish keeping?
我认为我们可能倾向于将动物的“情绪”和心理拟人化，以便与它们产生共鸣。他们和我们一样感到“烦闷”吗？
我女儿经常问我，某个特定的动物是否“聪明”，我回答她说，每一种生物都以其自身的方式表现出难以置信的聪明，这与我们的方式非常不同——在许多方面我们都不理解。
鱼缸里的鱼由于被囚禁，它们的本能行为受到了极大的压抑。这也让他们困惑吗？
我养了一个鱼缸四年，我也在想同样的事情。在某种程度上，我研究并试图维护我的鱼缸，以尽可能多地模仿它们的自然环境（木材、沙子、砾石、不同大小的岩石、不同种类的植物等），有角落和缝隙——但玻璃墙、过滤器、水质问题……好吧，那么烦闷：
每一两周，我都会在水箱里移动一些东西，添加一些新的东西，或者取出一些东西——在它们的自然环境中，它们从来没有“两次踏入同一条河”，所以我试着不停改变它们的周围环境，希望这可能有助于模仿它们在自然界中不断变化的环境，希望他们能从周围环境的停滞中找到一些喘息的机会。我还把水生环境的照片放在水箱的面板上，偶尔也换一下照片。所以，这是内疚还是养鱼？
Anthony Washington
I’m pretty sure they do. But as long as their needs are met, they can still love their lives. Even the best tank at an aquarium can’t compare with the majestic seas but they can live longer in a tank since there are no predators.
If you think about it, humans sorta live in a self imposed “tank”. The earth is 196 million square miles large yet most of us stay within a 20 mile radius for the majority of our lives. We wake up at the same time, eat more or less the same foods, drive the same car to our same job, and go back to our same home to do the same mundane activities, then we go to sleep, wake up, and do it all over again. But as long as our basic needs are met and we have company, we don’t really complain of boredom. Just think of that same concept on a more simplistic level with fish.
Maybe fish don’t really expect much more out of life since they were already bred and raised in a pet store tank before you purchased it. As long as they have food, a clean & safe environment, and other fish to keep them company, they should be alright. That’s just like humans. As long as we have food, shelter, security, and loved ones around, we’ll be just fine!
I usually stay within a 10 mile radius 99.99% of the time and I barely ever wonder what life is like on the other side of the Earth. So I would assume that a pet fish is not worried about missing out on the deep blue sea. They adapt to their environment and make the most out of their existence.
我敢肯定他们会的。但只要他们的需求得到满足，他们仍然可以热爱自己的生活。即使是水族馆里最好的鱼缸也无法与雄伟的大海相比，但由于没有食肉动物，它们可以在鱼缸里活得更长。
想想看，人类也生活在一个自己制造的“水箱”里。地球有1.96亿平方英里大，但我们大多数人一生中的大部分时间都在半径为20英里的范围内。我们在同一时间醒来，吃差不多相同的食物，开同样的车去做同样的工作，回到同样的家做同样的日常活动，然后我们睡觉，醒来，然后重新开始。但只要我们的基本需求得到满足，有人陪伴，我们就不会抱怨烦闷。只需在更简单的层面上思考鱼的相同状况。
也许鱼真的不会对生活有太多期望，因为在你购买之前，它们已经在宠物店的鱼缸里繁殖和饲养了。只要他们有食物、干净安全的环境，还有其他鱼类陪伴，他们就应该没事。就像人类一样。只要我们身边有食物、庇护所、安全和亲人，我们就会没事的！
我通常99.99%的时间都在10英里半径范围内活动，我几乎从不想知道地球另一边的生活是什么样子的。所以我认为宠物鱼并不担心错过深蓝色的海洋。他们适应环境，充分享受自己的存在。
Anastasia Weaver
Another good point. Most aquarium fish are captive bred and don't know any other life. So if they are provided for well, they shouldn't get “bored” as they don't know what they're missing. Fish live in here and now. You require a sense of what you're potentially missing out on to get “bored" Though, it is helpful to change things up in the tank a bit every now and then. Adding in growing plants that change over time, adding dried leaves or driftwood pieces to forage in or hide under, switching out decor, etc. It's really cool to see their behaviour change based on their surroundings, and it seems to make them healthier and more resistant. I think rather than “bored", fish can be either stressed out or content and healthy, and thus either showing normal behaviour or abnormal behaviour in response to the stress or lack of stress. If that makes sense?
上面的观点很好。大多数鱼缸里的鱼都是圈养的，不认识任何其他生物。所以，如果鱼缸里基本物质准备得好，他们不应该感到“烦闷”，因为他们不知道自己错过了什么。鱼生活在此时此地。你需要意识到你可能错过了什么才会“感到烦闷”，不过，时不时地改变一下水箱里的东西是有帮助的。加入随着时间的推移而变化的植物，加入干燥的叶子或浮木块方便他们觅食或藏在下面，更换装饰等等。看到它们的行为随着环境的变化而变化，这真的很酷，而且似乎这能使它们更健康、更具抵抗力。我认为这不是“烦闷”，鱼要么压力过大，要么心满意足，身体健康，因此在压力或缺乏压力的情况下，鱼要么表现出正常行为，要么表现出异常行为。这有意义吗？
Daniel Schwager
I own a young flowerhorn.
I truly believe that we have developed a relationship in a similar way to a dog or other similar pet. Granted it's largely based on food but so is a relationship with a dog.
From what I can tell he recognizes me specifically and swims frantically around the tank when I get home from work as if he's excited to see me. It is quite clear that he likes having someone else there with him and interacts when I am near the tank.
Like most flowerhorns I keep him alone in a tank for various reasons, mostly he would destroy any other fish I would house him with, maybe one day when he's moved to his forever tank.
From these interactions it seems clear to me that he can get bored and enjoys or needs interaction. He is right by my desk and I spend a good amount of time interacting so he won't get bored.
This level of cognitive abilities does not seem to be universal to fish. It is just my opinion from observation but chichlids seem to have a more inquisitive mind, likely from being predators.
In summary I would say, yes, some fish can indeed get bored.
我有一只小罗汉鱼。
我真的相信，我们已经建立了一种类似于狗或其他类似宠物的关系。当然，这主要是基于食物，但与狗的关系也是如此。
据我所知，他能认出我，当我下班回家时，他会疯狂地在水箱里游来游去，好像看到我很兴奋。很明显，他喜欢有其他人和他在一起，当我靠近水箱时，他会与我互动。
像大多数罗汉鱼一样，我出于各种原因把它单独关在一个鱼缸里，大多数情况下，它会破坏我将它关在一起的任何其他鱼，也许有一天，它会搬到它永远的鱼缸里。
从这些互动中，我很清楚，他可能会感到烦闷，喜欢或需要互动。他就在我的桌子旁边，我花了很多时间和他互动，这样他就不会感到烦闷了。
这种认知能力水平似乎并不普遍适用于鱼类。这只是我从观察中得出的观点，但丽鱼科的鱼似乎有一个更好奇的头脑，很可能是因为它是捕食者。
总之，我想说，是的，有些鱼确实会感到烦闷。
Anastasia Weaver
My two goldfish, Linda and Bob, do this when they see me. They don't do it when they see other people though. I'm sure it's just because they connected me to their food source, but just the fact that they can do even that much is exciting to me. Animal behaviour is such an awesome thing to observe, analyze, and research.
我的两条金鱼，琳达和鲍勃，看到我时就这么做。不过，当他们看到其他人时，他们不会这么做。我敢肯定，这只是因为他们把我和他们的食物来源联系起来，但事实上，他们可以做那么多，这让我很兴奋。观察、分析和研究动物行为是一件非常棒的事情。
Michelle Lynn Isle
Fish get bored from time to time no matter where they are.
Fish have emotions. You can piss them off, you can cultivate their depression, you can inspire their curiosity, teach them things they will demonstrate they either love doing, at don't want to do at all…
I know that my fish get bored and make up games. Sometimes they even teach each other dumb, time wasting things to do; it's behavior fish have with or without human intervention, psycho-analytical projection or domestication.
Bordom (in one sense or another) happens to all living creatures. It's a natural, temporary state.
鱼无论身在何处都会时不时地感到烦闷。
鱼有情感。你可以激怒他们，你可以培养他们的抑郁情绪，你可以激发他们的好奇心，教他们一些事情，他们会证明他们喜欢做某些事，甚至根本不想做某些事……
我知道我的鱼很烦闷，会自己编游戏。有时，他们甚至会教彼此做一些愚蠢、浪费时间的事情；这是鱼在有或没有人类干预、心理分析投射或驯化的情况下的行为。
从某种意义上说，所有的生物都会这样。这是一种自然的、暂时的状态。
Richard Pierce
Boredom is an emotion and you get on shaky ground when you start ascribing emotions to animals, especially ones so different from us. We are close enough to apes that we can often guess their emotional state, although we even can get that wrong with chimps. They see a smile as aggression, for example.
Fish have much simpler brains than we have and may not even have the hardware for emotions. That being said, it could be argued that it is cruel to keep a fish contrary to its social needs, if it has any. Many aquarium fish such as tetras, rasboras and Corydoras catfish are schooling fish. Their security comes from being part of a school. Not providing them with a school can make them behave abnormally. Other fish are solitary except at spawning time. Some will tolerate non-related species but don’t interact with them. They may be fine being alone their entire lives. Bettas are an example of this type of fish. If you put two Bettas together and they are not ready to spawn, one will likely kill the other in an aquarium. Cichlids, on the other hand can have complex social structures. Mbuna from Lake Malawi need to be crowded in an aquarium to defuse aggressive behavior. Other cichlids form bonded pairs and apparently not any other fish will do. Some individuals just don’t get along. Some people keep large cichlids as single specimens in aquaria and they frequently interact with their keeper.
烦闷是一种情绪，当你开始将情绪归因于动物，尤其是那些与我们如此不同的动物时，你会感到不安。我们与猿类的关系非常密切，我们经常可以猜测它们的情绪状态，尽管我们连黑猩猩的情绪也可能猜错，例如，你以为他在微笑，其实是一种攻击举动。
鱼的大脑比我们简单得多，甚至可能没有情感的硬件。话虽如此，如果一条鱼有社会需求的话，那么养一条鱼是残忍的。许多鱼缸里的鱼类，如四斑鲶、拉斯博拉斯鲶鱼和紫堇鲶鱼都是群居鱼类。他们的安全来自于成为群体的一员。不为他们提供群体可能会让他们行为反常。除产卵期外，其他鱼类都是独居的。有些会容忍非亲缘物种与他同住，但不会与它们互动。他们一辈子独处可能都没问题。斗鱼就是这种鱼的一个例子。如果你把两只贝塔放在一起，它们还没有准备好产卵，那么其中一只可能会在水族馆里杀死另一只。另一方面，慈鲷有着复杂的社会结构。来自马拉维湖的姆布纳需要挤在鱼缸里，以缓解攻击行为。慈鲷会形成结合对，显然其他鱼类不会这样做。有些就是相处不好。有些水族馆里把大型慈鲷单独喂养，它们经常与饲养员互动。
Personally, I don’t think fish get bored, just like I don’t think dogs can get bored. I believe that all of these animals live in the moment, without the concept of time. Watch a dog. When all their needs are satisfied, they just lay around. However when they receive the right stimulus they are up barking at the mailman or neighbor walking their dog. Or they are at the door ready for their walk. When the stimulus ends, so does the behavior.
The same could be said for a fish. It exists in a neutral state, awaiting stimuli. Take your Betta in its bowl, for example. When it is dark, he sleeps. When morning comes he awakens. If he is hungry he explores his surroundings picking on the biofilm that grows on every wet surface. When you add food, he eats. If he is healthy and the temperature is high enough he builds a bubble nest. If he sees a female Betta, he courts her. If she is receptive they spawn, if not he drives her away. If there is no stimulus, internal or external, he simply exists.
就我个人而言，我不认为鱼会感到烦闷，就像我不认为狗会感到烦闷一样。我相信所有这些动物都生活在当下，没有时间的概念。看狗。当他们的所有需求都得到满足时，他们就无所事事了。然而，当他们得到正确的刺激时，他们会对邮递员或遛狗的邻居大喊大叫。或者当它在门口准备出门的时候。当刺激结束时，行为也会停止。
鱼也是如此。它以中性状态存在，等待刺激。以你的斗鱼为例。天黑时，他睡觉。天亮时他醒了。如果他饿了，他会探索周围的环境，在每一个潮湿的表面上寻找生长的生物膜。当你添加食物时，他会吃。如果他身体健康，温度足够高，他就会建造一个泡沫巢。如果他看到一只雌性贝塔，他就会向她求婚。如果她能接受，他们就会产卵，如果不能，他就会把她赶走。如果没有内部或外部的刺激，他就简单的待着。
Michael Taylor
That you say dogs don't get bored, they just live in the moment, (as humans do for the most part) is bs, I video taped my two dogs when I left for work one morning after noticing how quiet & fearfull they were when I was about to leave, after seeing the tape after work I was horrified, all they did for 8 hrs from the moment I left to my return was to cry & running to the fro from the front windows to the door with every sound, hoping I'd return, they missed me so much, it upset me seeing how they suffered so, how could I put them through this 5 days a week? They didn't play with eachother while I was working, they were constantly waiting for my return, they didn't want food they wanted me, I fed them as I was about to leave but they both ran to the door as if to hopefully come with me, it was more than food, they didn’t eat the morning meal when I was working, but over the weekend they'd wolf it down just knowing I was there, these dogs & therefore all dog, cats & other animals know of time & they get bored, lonely, feel pain physically & mentally, they all fear death as any human does, they're not plants, even plants react to their surroundings & don't want to die, hence spines, poisens etc to avoid being consummed. that being said I think any animal, be it fish, amphibian, reptile.mammal or birds, they all want freedom, to do what nature intended, which wasn't to live in a glass bowl with fake plastic plants (if they're lucky), all life needs life to be as nature intended it for every species that's ever lived or ever will live!
你说狗不会感到烦闷，它们只是活在当下（大多数情况下就像人类一样）是扯淡。一天早上，当我去上班的时候，我注意到我正要离开的时候，我的两只狗是多么的安静和恐惧，下班后看了录像，我很震惊，从我离开的那一刻到我回来的那一刻，他们在8个小时里所做的一切就是哭泣，从前窗到门，随着每一个声音奔向前方，希望我能回来，他们太想念我了，看到他们如此痛苦，我很不安，我怎么能让他们一周5天都这样度过呢？我工作的时候，他们没有玩，他们一直在等我回来，他们不想要食物，他们想要我，我正要离开的时候给他们喂食，但他们都跑到门口，好像希望能和我一起去，这不仅仅是食物，我工作的时候他们没有吃早餐，但周末他们知道我在那里就狼吞虎咽地吃了下去，因此所有的狗、猫和其他动物都是知道时间的，它们会感到烦闷、孤独、身体和精神上的痛苦，它们都像人类一样害怕死亡，它们不是植物，甚至植物也会对周围的环境做出反应，不想死，因此，为了避免被伤害，它们会长出刺、进化出毒性等。尽管如此，我认为任何动物，无论是鱼、两栖动物还是爬行动物，哺乳动物或鸟类，他们都想要自由，去做大自然想要做的事情，而不是生活在一个装有假塑料植物的玻璃碗里（如果他们幸运的话），所有的生命都需要像大自然所希望的那样生活——无论是曾经存在过的还是现在 依然活着的每一个物种！
Anastasia Weaver
Fish are simple creatures though. As long as their social needs are met, they have a varied diet, plenty of swimming space, and an enriched environment they are pretty content doing their fishy things- even in a tank. That being said, meeting the need of the species at hand is absolutely necessary. Before acquiring any species extensive research needs to be done. If you cannot provide the requirements for any pet thoroughly and consistently you shouldn't be getting said pet.
不过鱼是简单的生物。只要他们的社会需求得到满足，如果他们有多样化的饮食、充足的游泳空间和丰富的环境——他们非常满足于做他们的鱼的事情——即使是在水箱里。尽管如此，满足现有宠物的需求是绝对必要的。在养任何物种之前，需要进行广泛的研究。如果你不能为任何宠物提供完整且一致的要求，那么你就不应该养宠物。
Añsoñ Gèorgé
Pure bullshit. What you talk is not scientific. Solitary living of species is natural but living in a closed tank for rest of life isn't! And please observe a dog more carefully next time. They do have variable emotions sometimes more than a man. Be receptive and keen to nature don't make such statements without knowing the nature.
纯属胡说八道。你说的不科学。物种的孤独生活是自然的，但在一个封闭的水池中度过余生则不是！下次请仔细观察一条狗。他们确实有着多变的情绪，有时甚至比人更复杂。要善于接受和热爱大自然，不要在不了解大自然的情况下发表这样的言论。
Osama Yousef
The thing about a dog. You say feed them and watch what they do. Why don't you unleash them outside and watch what they'll do?Of course keeping any time of animal in your house all day long fuckin sucks for them. As for fish I'm not sure about how the fish brain works, but I would go fuckin nuts If my only place was a square.
I'd say dogs are fine if you're going out every weekend and showing your animal the world, I typically feel bad for house cats cause they typically sit at the window yearning for the day they can run outside and chase that bird…
关于狗的事。你说喂养它们，观察它们。你为什么不把他们放在外面看看他们会怎么做？当然，让动物整天呆在家里对它们来说太糟糕了。至于鱼，我不确定鱼的大脑是如何工作的，但如果我只能在一个正方形内活动，我会发疯的。
如果你每个周末都出去给你的动物看世界，我会说狗会很好，我通常为家猫感到难过，因为它们通常坐在窗前，渴望有一天能跑到外面去追那只鸟……
SeekersLegacy
It’s a proven fact that most, more complex animals DO have complex emotions and feelings. It’s been proven for awhile now. Especially dogs and cats. It takes a delusional mindset to believe that dogs don’t have complex emotions and feelings.
事实证明，大多数更复杂的动物确实有复杂的情绪和感觉。这已经被证明有一段时间了。尤其是狗和猫。要相信狗没有复杂的情绪和感觉，需要有一种妄想的心态。
Richard Pierce
Can you read a dog’s mind? Can you talk abstract concepts with your cat?
How do you know you are not projecting your own feelings onto an animal. It is called anthropomorphism or anthropomorphization.
Have you heard of the horse called Clever Hans?
It is not a proven fact that any animals other than humans have complex emotions and feelings. It is not provable because we cannot get into the mind of an animal. Even with higher primates with whom we can communicate with sign language, we don’t know that they have complex emotions. Given the similarity in brain morphology and physical characteristics, I believe it is likely that they have similar emotions to humans, but that is not proven.
We have sextively bred dogs and cats for hundreds of generations to respond to us the way that they do. It is quite likely that a person who thinks animals have and express emotions similar to humans is the delusional one.
你能读懂狗的心思吗？你能和你的猫谈论抽象概念吗？
你怎么知道你没有把自己的感情投射到动物身上。这被称为拟人论或拟人观。
你听说过一种名为聪明汉斯的马吗？
人类以外的任何动物都有复杂的情绪和感觉，这并不是一个已证实的事实。这是无法证明的，因为我们无法进入动物的头脑。即使我们可以用手语与高级灵长类动物交流，我们也不知道它们有复杂的情绪。考虑到大脑形态和身体特征的相似性，我认为他们很可能与人类有相似的情绪，但这一点尚未得到证实。
数百代人以来，我们都有选择地饲养猫狗，以它们的方式回应我们。一个认为动物拥有并表达与人类相似的情感的人很可能是妄想狂。
“Delusions are defined as fixed, false beliefs that conflict with reality. Despite contrary evidence, a person in a delusional state can’t let go of their convictions.”
Now I don’t think projecting emotions on to animals is a sign of mental illness. It is a natural function of our brains, just like seeing shapes, especially faces where there are none, such as the face on Mars, shapes in clouds, and the Virgin Mary in an oil spill.
The idea that animals have emotions cannot be tested by science because it is non-falsifiable. Since you cannot get into the mind of an animal, you can neither prove or disprove what it feels, if anything.
I think that it is likely that animals with brains similar to ours may have emotions, but that does not prove it. It is mentally rewarding to us to act as though it is true. But as brains are less and less like ours, I think it is less and less likely that they function in the same manner.
By the way, I do treat my own dog as if it has emotions even if I know many of his behaviors are likely the result of conditioning.
“妄想是指与现实相冲突的固定错误信念。尽管有相反的证据，处于妄想状态的人不能放弃自己的信念。”
现在我不认为把情绪投射到动物身上是精神疾病的迹象。这是我们大脑的一种自然功能，就像看到形状一样，尤其是没有形状的脸，比如火星上的脸，云的形状，以及漏油事故中的圣母玛利亚。
动物有情感的观点不能被科学检验，因为它是不可伪造的。既然你无法进入动物的头脑，你就无法证明或反驳它的感受。
我认为大脑与我们相似的动物可能有情绪，但并不能证明这一点。对我们来说，假装这是真的是一种精神上的回报。但随着部分动物的大脑越来越不像我们的大脑，我认为它们以同样的方式运作的可能性越来越小。
顺便说一句，我对待自己的狗就像它有情绪一样，即使我知道它的许多行为可能是条件反射的结果。
One Oni
With all due respect don't comment on something you have little information on. Read the newest studies published on fish. They feel pain, they get depressed and even bored. You said one shouldn't describe human emotion to animals. Yet you fail to realize that we too are animals. But it's a common trait of humans to thing they are so special, so I can not blame you for your ignorance.
恕我直言，不要对你所知甚少的事情发表评论。阅读关于鱼类的最新研究。他们能感到疼痛，感到沮丧，甚至烦闷。你说过不应该向动物描述人类的情感。然而你没有意识到我们也是动物。这是人类的一个共同特点，因为他们如此特殊，所以我不能因为你的无知而责怪你。
Richard Pierce
Exactly what are your qualifications to comment on fish behavior? Your profile is blank. I have been keeping fish in an aquaria for around 50 years. I have worked full time in two public aquaria and two aquarium stores. I have a M.S. degree in Marine Biology and a Ph.D. degree in Biological Oceanography. I think I have more than a little information on fish and fish behavior!
To which newest studies are you referring? Give me some citations and I am happy to discuss them. Peer reviewed journals only.
Of course we are animals. More specifically we are chordates, we are mammals, we are primates and we are apes. Our closest relatives are chimpanzees. So what if we are animals? Sponges are animals and not only do they not have brains, they don’t even have nerve cells.
Do YOU know and understand the differences mammalian and fish brains? Fish don’t even have the brain parts understand pain or feel emotion.
你有什么资格评论鱼类的行为？你的个人资料是空白的。我在水族馆养鱼已经有50年了。我在两家公共水族馆和两家水族馆商店全职工作。我有海洋生物学硕士学位和生物海洋学博士学位。我想我对鱼和鱼的行为有更多的了解！
你指的是哪项最新研究？给我一些引文，我很乐意讨论它们。仅限同行评审期刊。
我们当然是动物。更具体地说，我们是脊索动物，我们是哺乳动物，我们是灵长类动物，我们是类人猿。我们的近亲是黑猩猩。但那又怎么样呢？海绵是动物，但是，它们不仅没有大脑，甚至没有神经细胞。
你知道并理解哺乳动物和鱼类大脑的区别吗？鱼的大脑甚至连理解疼痛或感受情感的部分都没有。
All organisms react to stimuli, even plants. Single-celled protists move away from negative stimuli. Do you think an Amoeba feels pain, gets depressed or bored?
One of the first rules of studying animal behavior is not to project human emotions onto animals. That would be making assumptions without any facts to back up those assumptions. Can you get into an animal’s head and experience the world through its senses? Just exactly how do suggest one diagnoses depression in a fish?
I don’t care if you feel fish have emotions. It is just insulting to say I have little information on fish or am ignorant that humans are animals. Just because we have emotions that doesn’t say anything about any other organism without evidence. We know that even people of different cultures react differently to the same situation so how can you assume anything about animals?
If you have evidence to support your points, fine. Right now it looks to me that you are the one with little information.
所有的有机体都会对刺激产生反应，即使是植物。单细胞原生生物远离负面刺激。你认为变形虫会感到疼痛、抑郁或烦闷吗？
研究动物行为的首要规则之一是不要将人类的情感投射到动物身上。这将是在没有任何事实支持这些假设的情况下做出假设。你能进入动物的大脑，通过它的感官体验世界吗？到底该如何诊断一条鱼的抑郁症呢？
我不在乎你是否觉得鱼有感情。但是，说我不懂关于鱼类的信息，或者说我不知道人类是动物，这是一种侮辱。只是因为我们的情绪在没有证据的情况下不会对任何其他有机体产生任何影响。我们知道，即使是不同文化的人对同一情况的反应也不同，那么你怎么能对动物做出任何假设呢？
如果你有证据支持你的观点，没问题。现在在我看来，你就是一个根本什么都不懂的人。
Anastasia Weaver
Dogs absolutely get bored, especially if you have a high energy breed. They get destructive or neurotic when not properly stimulated or exercised. Same with basically any mammal. Though I do agree that the water gets a little murky when you ascribe mammalian traits/emotions to fish. Pun intended.
狗绝对会感到烦闷，尤其是你养的是一个精力旺盛的品种。如果没有适当的刺激或锻炼，他们会变得具有破坏性或神经质。基本上所有哺乳动物都一样。尽管我同意，当你把哺乳动物的特征/情绪归因于鱼时，水会变得有点浑浊。双关语。
Brenden Hawley
According to my ex veterinarian mom, dogs get bored and start self harming when they do, which is why it is important to walk them
据我的前兽医妈妈说，狗会感到烦闷，并开始自残，这就是为什么遛狗很重要。
Kathy Copeland
Dogs do get bored. I think a fish swimming around and around in a rectangle with just a minimum amount of accoutrements are bored also.
狗确实会感到烦闷。我觉得一条鱼在一个只有最少装备的长方形里游来游去也很烦闷。
原文地址：https://www.quora.com/Do-fish-get-bored-living-in-an-aquarium-for-all-of-their-life
I think we might have a tendency to anthropomorphize the “emotions” and psychology of animals often in an effort to empathize with them. Do they share our feelings of “boredom”?
My daughter often asks me if a given animal is “smart”, and I respond to her that every creature is incredibly smart in their own ways, which are very different from ours- in many ways that we don't understand.
Aquarium fish are in a position where their instinctual behavior is pretty oppressed because of captivity. Is this confusing to them too?
I've kept an aquarium for four years now and I"ve wondered the same thing. To this extent, I research and try to maintain my tank to mimic as much of their natural environment (wood, sand,gravel, different size rocks, varieties of different plants,etc.) with nooks and crevices- but the distortion and barrier of glass walls, filters, water quality…. Okay, so boredom:
Every week or two I move things around in the tank, add something new or take something out- in their natural environment they’ve never ‘stepped in the same river twice’, so I try to rotate their surroundings with the hope that this might help to mimic their ever changing environment in the natural world; for them to hopefully, maybe find some reprieve from the stasis of a tank environment. I also place pictures of aquatic environments on a panel of the tank and change them around occasionally too. Is this guilt or fish keeping?
我认为我们可能倾向于将动物的“情绪”和心理拟人化，以便与它们产生共鸣。他们和我们一样感到“烦闷”吗？
我女儿经常问我，某个特定的动物是否“聪明”，我回答她说，每一种生物都以其自身的方式表现出难以置信的聪明，这与我们的方式非常不同——在许多方面我们都不理解。
鱼缸里的鱼由于被囚禁，它们的本能行为受到了极大的压抑。这也让他们困惑吗？
我养了一个鱼缸四年，我也在想同样的事情。在某种程度上，我研究并试图维护我的鱼缸，以尽可能多地模仿它们的自然环境（木材、沙子、砾石、不同大小的岩石、不同种类的植物等），有角落和缝隙——但玻璃墙、过滤器、水质问题……好吧，那么烦闷：
每一两周，我都会在水箱里移动一些东西，添加一些新的东西，或者取出一些东西——在它们的自然环境中，它们从来没有“两次踏入同一条河”，所以我试着不停改变它们的周围环境，希望这可能有助于模仿它们在自然界中不断变化的环境，希望他们能从周围环境的停滞中找到一些喘息的机会。我还把水生环境的照片放在水箱的面板上，偶尔也换一下照片。所以，这是内疚还是养鱼？
Anthony Washington
I’m pretty sure they do. But as long as their needs are met, they can still love their lives. Even the best tank at an aquarium can’t compare with the majestic seas but they can live longer in a tank since there are no predators.
If you think about it, humans sorta live in a self imposed “tank”. The earth is 196 million square miles large yet most of us stay within a 20 mile radius for the majority of our lives. We wake up at the same time, eat more or less the same foods, drive the same car to our same job, and go back to our same home to do the same mundane activities, then we go to sleep, wake up, and do it all over again. But as long as our basic needs are met and we have company, we don’t really complain of boredom. Just think of that same concept on a more simplistic level with fish.
Maybe fish don’t really expect much more out of life since they were already bred and raised in a pet store tank before you purchased it. As long as they have food, a clean & safe environment, and other fish to keep them company, they should be alright. That’s just like humans. As long as we have food, shelter, security, and loved ones around, we’ll be just fine!
I usually stay within a 10 mile radius 99.99% of the time and I barely ever wonder what life is like on the other side of the Earth. So I would assume that a pet fish is not worried about missing out on the deep blue sea. They adapt to their environment and make the most out of their existence.
我敢肯定他们会的。但只要他们的需求得到满足，他们仍然可以热爱自己的生活。即使是水族馆里最好的鱼缸也无法与雄伟的大海相比，但由于没有食肉动物，它们可以在鱼缸里活得更长。
想想看，人类也生活在一个自己制造的“水箱”里。地球有1.96亿平方英里大，但我们大多数人一生中的大部分时间都在半径为20英里的范围内。我们在同一时间醒来，吃差不多相同的食物，开同样的车去做同样的工作，回到同样的家做同样的日常活动，然后我们睡觉，醒来，然后重新开始。但只要我们的基本需求得到满足，有人陪伴，我们就不会抱怨烦闷。只需在更简单的层面上思考鱼的相同状况。
也许鱼真的不会对生活有太多期望，因为在你购买之前，它们已经在宠物店的鱼缸里繁殖和饲养了。只要他们有食物、干净安全的环境，还有其他鱼类陪伴，他们就应该没事。就像人类一样。只要我们身边有食物、庇护所、安全和亲人，我们就会没事的！
我通常99.99%的时间都在10英里半径范围内活动，我几乎从不想知道地球另一边的生活是什么样子的。所以我认为宠物鱼并不担心错过深蓝色的海洋。他们适应环境，充分享受自己的存在。
Anastasia Weaver
Another good point. Most aquarium fish are captive bred and don't know any other life. So if they are provided for well, they shouldn't get “bored” as they don't know what they're missing. Fish live in here and now. You require a sense of what you're potentially missing out on to get “bored" Though, it is helpful to change things up in the tank a bit every now and then. Adding in growing plants that change over time, adding dried leaves or driftwood pieces to forage in or hide under, switching out decor, etc. It's really cool to see their behaviour change based on their surroundings, and it seems to make them healthier and more resistant. I think rather than “bored", fish can be either stressed out or content and healthy, and thus either showing normal behaviour or abnormal behaviour in response to the stress or lack of stress. If that makes sense?
上面的观点很好。大多数鱼缸里的鱼都是圈养的，不认识任何其他生物。所以，如果鱼缸里基本物质准备得好，他们不应该感到“烦闷”，因为他们不知道自己错过了什么。鱼生活在此时此地。你需要意识到你可能错过了什么才会“感到烦闷”，不过，时不时地改变一下水箱里的东西是有帮助的。加入随着时间的推移而变化的植物，加入干燥的叶子或浮木块方便他们觅食或藏在下面，更换装饰等等。看到它们的行为随着环境的变化而变化，这真的很酷，而且似乎这能使它们更健康、更具抵抗力。我认为这不是“烦闷”，鱼要么压力过大，要么心满意足，身体健康，因此在压力或缺乏压力的情况下，鱼要么表现出正常行为，要么表现出异常行为。这有意义吗？
Daniel Schwager
I own a young flowerhorn.
I truly believe that we have developed a relationship in a similar way to a dog or other similar pet. Granted it's largely based on food but so is a relationship with a dog.
From what I can tell he recognizes me specifically and swims frantically around the tank when I get home from work as if he's excited to see me. It is quite clear that he likes having someone else there with him and interacts when I am near the tank.
Like most flowerhorns I keep him alone in a tank for various reasons, mostly he would destroy any other fish I would house him with, maybe one day when he's moved to his forever tank.
From these interactions it seems clear to me that he can get bored and enjoys or needs interaction. He is right by my desk and I spend a good amount of time interacting so he won't get bored.
This level of cognitive abilities does not seem to be universal to fish. It is just my opinion from observation but chichlids seem to have a more inquisitive mind, likely from being predators.
In summary I would say, yes, some fish can indeed get bored.
我有一只小罗汉鱼。
我真的相信，我们已经建立了一种类似于狗或其他类似宠物的关系。当然，这主要是基于食物，但与狗的关系也是如此。
据我所知，他能认出我，当我下班回家时，他会疯狂地在水箱里游来游去，好像看到我很兴奋。很明显，他喜欢有其他人和他在一起，当我靠近水箱时，他会与我互动。
像大多数罗汉鱼一样，我出于各种原因把它单独关在一个鱼缸里，大多数情况下，它会破坏我将它关在一起的任何其他鱼，也许有一天，它会搬到它永远的鱼缸里。
从这些互动中，我很清楚，他可能会感到烦闷，喜欢或需要互动。他就在我的桌子旁边，我花了很多时间和他互动，这样他就不会感到烦闷了。
这种认知能力水平似乎并不普遍适用于鱼类。这只是我从观察中得出的观点，但丽鱼科的鱼似乎有一个更好奇的头脑，很可能是因为它是捕食者。
总之，我想说，是的，有些鱼确实会感到烦闷。
Anastasia Weaver
My two goldfish, Linda and Bob, do this when they see me. They don't do it when they see other people though. I'm sure it's just because they connected me to their food source, but just the fact that they can do even that much is exciting to me. Animal behaviour is such an awesome thing to observe, analyze, and research.
我的两条金鱼，琳达和鲍勃，看到我时就这么做。不过，当他们看到其他人时，他们不会这么做。我敢肯定，这只是因为他们把我和他们的食物来源联系起来，但事实上，他们可以做那么多，这让我很兴奋。观察、分析和研究动物行为是一件非常棒的事情。
Michelle Lynn Isle
Fish get bored from time to time no matter where they are.
Fish have emotions. You can piss them off, you can cultivate their depression, you can inspire their curiosity, teach them things they will demonstrate they either love doing, at don't want to do at all…
I know that my fish get bored and make up games. Sometimes they even teach each other dumb, time wasting things to do; it's behavior fish have with or without human intervention, psycho-analytical projection or domestication.
Bordom (in one sense or another) happens to all living creatures. It's a natural, temporary state.
鱼无论身在何处都会时不时地感到烦闷。
鱼有情感。你可以激怒他们，你可以培养他们的抑郁情绪，你可以激发他们的好奇心，教他们一些事情，他们会证明他们喜欢做某些事，甚至根本不想做某些事……
我知道我的鱼很烦闷，会自己编游戏。有时，他们甚至会教彼此做一些愚蠢、浪费时间的事情；这是鱼在有或没有人类干预、心理分析投射或驯化的情况下的行为。
从某种意义上说，所有的生物都会这样。这是一种自然的、暂时的状态。
Richard Pierce
Boredom is an emotion and you get on shaky ground when you start ascribing emotions to animals, especially ones so different from us. We are close enough to apes that we can often guess their emotional state, although we even can get that wrong with chimps. They see a smile as aggression, for example.
Fish have much simpler brains than we have and may not even have the hardware for emotions. That being said, it could be argued that it is cruel to keep a fish contrary to its social needs, if it has any. Many aquarium fish such as tetras, rasboras and Corydoras catfish are schooling fish. Their security comes from being part of a school. Not providing them with a school can make them behave abnormally. Other fish are solitary except at spawning time. Some will tolerate non-related species but don’t interact with them. They may be fine being alone their entire lives. Bettas are an example of this type of fish. If you put two Bettas together and they are not ready to spawn, one will likely kill the other in an aquarium. Cichlids, on the other hand can have complex social structures. Mbuna from Lake Malawi need to be crowded in an aquarium to defuse aggressive behavior. Other cichlids form bonded pairs and apparently not any other fish will do. Some individuals just don’t get along. Some people keep large cichlids as single specimens in aquaria and they frequently interact with their keeper.
烦闷是一种情绪，当你开始将情绪归因于动物，尤其是那些与我们如此不同的动物时，你会感到不安。我们与猿类的关系非常密切，我们经常可以猜测它们的情绪状态，尽管我们连黑猩猩的情绪也可能猜错，例如，你以为他在微笑，其实是一种攻击举动。
鱼的大脑比我们简单得多，甚至可能没有情感的硬件。话虽如此，如果一条鱼有社会需求的话，那么养一条鱼是残忍的。许多鱼缸里的鱼类，如四斑鲶、拉斯博拉斯鲶鱼和紫堇鲶鱼都是群居鱼类。他们的安全来自于成为群体的一员。不为他们提供群体可能会让他们行为反常。除产卵期外，其他鱼类都是独居的。有些会容忍非亲缘物种与他同住，但不会与它们互动。他们一辈子独处可能都没问题。斗鱼就是这种鱼的一个例子。如果你把两只贝塔放在一起，它们还没有准备好产卵，那么其中一只可能会在水族馆里杀死另一只。另一方面，慈鲷有着复杂的社会结构。来自马拉维湖的姆布纳需要挤在鱼缸里，以缓解攻击行为。慈鲷会形成结合对，显然其他鱼类不会这样做。有些就是相处不好。有些水族馆里把大型慈鲷单独喂养，它们经常与饲养员互动。
Personally, I don’t think fish get bored, just like I don’t think dogs can get bored. I believe that all of these animals live in the moment, without the concept of time. Watch a dog. When all their needs are satisfied, they just lay around. However when they receive the right stimulus they are up barking at the mailman or neighbor walking their dog. Or they are at the door ready for their walk. When the stimulus ends, so does the behavior.
The same could be said for a fish. It exists in a neutral state, awaiting stimuli. Take your Betta in its bowl, for example. When it is dark, he sleeps. When morning comes he awakens. If he is hungry he explores his surroundings picking on the biofilm that grows on every wet surface. When you add food, he eats. If he is healthy and the temperature is high enough he builds a bubble nest. If he sees a female Betta, he courts her. If she is receptive they spawn, if not he drives her away. If there is no stimulus, internal or external, he simply exists.
就我个人而言，我不认为鱼会感到烦闷，就像我不认为狗会感到烦闷一样。我相信所有这些动物都生活在当下，没有时间的概念。看狗。当他们的所有需求都得到满足时，他们就无所事事了。然而，当他们得到正确的刺激时，他们会对邮递员或遛狗的邻居大喊大叫。或者当它在门口准备出门的时候。当刺激结束时，行为也会停止。
鱼也是如此。它以中性状态存在，等待刺激。以你的斗鱼为例。天黑时，他睡觉。天亮时他醒了。如果他饿了，他会探索周围的环境，在每一个潮湿的表面上寻找生长的生物膜。当你添加食物时，他会吃。如果他身体健康，温度足够高，他就会建造一个泡沫巢。如果他看到一只雌性贝塔，他就会向她求婚。如果她能接受，他们就会产卵，如果不能，他就会把她赶走。如果没有内部或外部的刺激，他就简单的待着。
Michael Taylor
That you say dogs don't get bored, they just live in the moment, (as humans do for the most part) is bs, I video taped my two dogs when I left for work one morning after noticing how quiet & fearfull they were when I was about to leave, after seeing the tape after work I was horrified, all they did for 8 hrs from the moment I left to my return was to cry & running to the fro from the front windows to the door with every sound, hoping I'd return, they missed me so much, it upset me seeing how they suffered so, how could I put them through this 5 days a week? They didn't play with eachother while I was working, they were constantly waiting for my return, they didn't want food they wanted me, I fed them as I was about to leave but they both ran to the door as if to hopefully come with me, it was more than food, they didn’t eat the morning meal when I was working, but over the weekend they'd wolf it down just knowing I was there, these dogs & therefore all dog, cats & other animals know of time & they get bored, lonely, feel pain physically & mentally, they all fear death as any human does, they're not plants, even plants react to their surroundings & don't want to die, hence spines, poisens etc to avoid being consummed. that being said I think any animal, be it fish, amphibian, reptile.mammal or birds, they all want freedom, to do what nature intended, which wasn't to live in a glass bowl with fake plastic plants (if they're lucky), all life needs life to be as nature intended it for every species that's ever lived or ever will live!
你说狗不会感到烦闷，它们只是活在当下（大多数情况下就像人类一样）是扯淡。一天早上，当我去上班的时候，我注意到我正要离开的时候，我的两只狗是多么的安静和恐惧，下班后看了录像，我很震惊，从我离开的那一刻到我回来的那一刻，他们在8个小时里所做的一切就是哭泣，从前窗到门，随着每一个声音奔向前方，希望我能回来，他们太想念我了，看到他们如此痛苦，我很不安，我怎么能让他们一周5天都这样度过呢？我工作的时候，他们没有玩，他们一直在等我回来，他们不想要食物，他们想要我，我正要离开的时候给他们喂食，但他们都跑到门口，好像希望能和我一起去，这不仅仅是食物，我工作的时候他们没有吃早餐，但周末他们知道我在那里就狼吞虎咽地吃了下去，因此所有的狗、猫和其他动物都是知道时间的，它们会感到烦闷、孤独、身体和精神上的痛苦，它们都像人类一样害怕死亡，它们不是植物，甚至植物也会对周围的环境做出反应，不想死，因此，为了避免被伤害，它们会长出刺、进化出毒性等。尽管如此，我认为任何动物，无论是鱼、两栖动物还是爬行动物，哺乳动物或鸟类，他们都想要自由，去做大自然想要做的事情，而不是生活在一个装有假塑料植物的玻璃碗里（如果他们幸运的话），所有的生命都需要像大自然所希望的那样生活——无论是曾经存在过的还是现在 依然活着的每一个物种！
Anastasia Weaver
Fish are simple creatures though. As long as their social needs are met, they have a varied diet, plenty of swimming space, and an enriched environment they are pretty content doing their fishy things- even in a tank. That being said, meeting the need of the species at hand is absolutely necessary. Before acquiring any species extensive research needs to be done. If you cannot provide the requirements for any pet thoroughly and consistently you shouldn't be getting said pet.
不过鱼是简单的生物。只要他们的社会需求得到满足，如果他们有多样化的饮食、充足的游泳空间和丰富的环境——他们非常满足于做他们的鱼的事情——即使是在水箱里。尽管如此，满足现有宠物的需求是绝对必要的。在养任何物种之前，需要进行广泛的研究。如果你不能为任何宠物提供完整且一致的要求，那么你就不应该养宠物。
Añsoñ Gèorgé
Pure bullshit. What you talk is not scientific. Solitary living of species is natural but living in a closed tank for rest of life isn't! And please observe a dog more carefully next time. They do have variable emotions sometimes more than a man. Be receptive and keen to nature don't make such statements without knowing the nature.
纯属胡说八道。你说的不科学。物种的孤独生活是自然的，但在一个封闭的水池中度过余生则不是！下次请仔细观察一条狗。他们确实有着多变的情绪，有时甚至比人更复杂。要善于接受和热爱大自然，不要在不了解大自然的情况下发表这样的言论。
Osama Yousef
The thing about a dog. You say feed them and watch what they do. Why don't you unleash them outside and watch what they'll do?Of course keeping any time of animal in your house all day long fuckin sucks for them. As for fish I'm not sure about how the fish brain works, but I would go fuckin nuts If my only place was a square.
I'd say dogs are fine if you're going out every weekend and showing your animal the world, I typically feel bad for house cats cause they typically sit at the window yearning for the day they can run outside and chase that bird…
关于狗的事。你说喂养它们，观察它们。你为什么不把他们放在外面看看他们会怎么做？当然，让动物整天呆在家里对它们来说太糟糕了。至于鱼，我不确定鱼的大脑是如何工作的，但如果我只能在一个正方形内活动，我会发疯的。
如果你每个周末都出去给你的动物看世界，我会说狗会很好，我通常为家猫感到难过，因为它们通常坐在窗前，渴望有一天能跑到外面去追那只鸟……
SeekersLegacy
It’s a proven fact that most, more complex animals DO have complex emotions and feelings. It’s been proven for awhile now. Especially dogs and cats. It takes a delusional mindset to believe that dogs don’t have complex emotions and feelings.
事实证明，大多数更复杂的动物确实有复杂的情绪和感觉。这已经被证明有一段时间了。尤其是狗和猫。要相信狗没有复杂的情绪和感觉，需要有一种妄想的心态。
Richard Pierce
Can you read a dog’s mind? Can you talk abstract concepts with your cat?
How do you know you are not projecting your own feelings onto an animal. It is called anthropomorphism or anthropomorphization.
Have you heard of the horse called Clever Hans?
It is not a proven fact that any animals other than humans have complex emotions and feelings. It is not provable because we cannot get into the mind of an animal. Even with higher primates with whom we can communicate with sign language, we don’t know that they have complex emotions. Given the similarity in brain morphology and physical characteristics, I believe it is likely that they have similar emotions to humans, but that is not proven.
We have sextively bred dogs and cats for hundreds of generations to respond to us the way that they do. It is quite likely that a person who thinks animals have and express emotions similar to humans is the delusional one.
你能读懂狗的心思吗？你能和你的猫谈论抽象概念吗？
你怎么知道你没有把自己的感情投射到动物身上。这被称为拟人论或拟人观。
你听说过一种名为聪明汉斯的马吗？
人类以外的任何动物都有复杂的情绪和感觉，这并不是一个已证实的事实。这是无法证明的，因为我们无法进入动物的头脑。即使我们可以用手语与高级灵长类动物交流，我们也不知道它们有复杂的情绪。考虑到大脑形态和身体特征的相似性，我认为他们很可能与人类有相似的情绪，但这一点尚未得到证实。
数百代人以来，我们都有选择地饲养猫狗，以它们的方式回应我们。一个认为动物拥有并表达与人类相似的情感的人很可能是妄想狂。
“Delusions are defined as fixed, false beliefs that conflict with reality. Despite contrary evidence, a person in a delusional state can’t let go of their convictions.”
Now I don’t think projecting emotions on to animals is a sign of mental illness. It is a natural function of our brains, just like seeing shapes, especially faces where there are none, such as the face on Mars, shapes in clouds, and the Virgin Mary in an oil spill.
The idea that animals have emotions cannot be tested by science because it is non-falsifiable. Since you cannot get into the mind of an animal, you can neither prove or disprove what it feels, if anything.
I think that it is likely that animals with brains similar to ours may have emotions, but that does not prove it. It is mentally rewarding to us to act as though it is true. But as brains are less and less like ours, I think it is less and less likely that they function in the same manner.
By the way, I do treat my own dog as if it has emotions even if I know many of his behaviors are likely the result of conditioning.
“妄想是指与现实相冲突的固定错误信念。尽管有相反的证据，处于妄想状态的人不能放弃自己的信念。”
现在我不认为把情绪投射到动物身上是精神疾病的迹象。这是我们大脑的一种自然功能，就像看到形状一样，尤其是没有形状的脸，比如火星上的脸，云的形状，以及漏油事故中的圣母玛利亚。
动物有情感的观点不能被科学检验，因为它是不可伪造的。既然你无法进入动物的头脑，你就无法证明或反驳它的感受。
我认为大脑与我们相似的动物可能有情绪，但并不能证明这一点。对我们来说，假装这是真的是一种精神上的回报。但随着部分动物的大脑越来越不像我们的大脑，我认为它们以同样的方式运作的可能性越来越小。
顺便说一句，我对待自己的狗就像它有情绪一样，即使我知道它的许多行为可能是条件反射的结果。
One Oni
With all due respect don't comment on something you have little information on. Read the newest studies published on fish. They feel pain, they get depressed and even bored. You said one shouldn't describe human emotion to animals. Yet you fail to realize that we too are animals. But it's a common trait of humans to thing they are so special, so I can not blame you for your ignorance.
恕我直言，不要对你所知甚少的事情发表评论。阅读关于鱼类的最新研究。他们能感到疼痛，感到沮丧，甚至烦闷。你说过不应该向动物描述人类的情感。然而你没有意识到我们也是动物。这是人类的一个共同特点，因为他们如此特殊，所以我不能因为你的无知而责怪你。
Richard Pierce
Exactly what are your qualifications to comment on fish behavior? Your profile is blank. I have been keeping fish in an aquaria for around 50 years. I have worked full time in two public aquaria and two aquarium stores. I have a M.S. degree in Marine Biology and a Ph.D. degree in Biological Oceanography. I think I have more than a little information on fish and fish behavior!
To which newest studies are you referring? Give me some citations and I am happy to discuss them. Peer reviewed journals only.
Of course we are animals. More specifically we are chordates, we are mammals, we are primates and we are apes. Our closest relatives are chimpanzees. So what if we are animals? Sponges are animals and not only do they not have brains, they don’t even have nerve cells.
Do YOU know and understand the differences mammalian and fish brains? Fish don’t even have the brain parts understand pain or feel emotion.
你有什么资格评论鱼类的行为？你的个人资料是空白的。我在水族馆养鱼已经有50年了。我在两家公共水族馆和两家水族馆商店全职工作。我有海洋生物学硕士学位和生物海洋学博士学位。我想我对鱼和鱼的行为有更多的了解！
你指的是哪项最新研究？给我一些引文，我很乐意讨论它们。仅限同行评审期刊。
我们当然是动物。更具体地说，我们是脊索动物，我们是哺乳动物，我们是灵长类动物，我们是类人猿。我们的近亲是黑猩猩。但那又怎么样呢？海绵是动物，但是，它们不仅没有大脑，甚至没有神经细胞。
你知道并理解哺乳动物和鱼类大脑的区别吗？鱼的大脑甚至连理解疼痛或感受情感的部分都没有。
All organisms react to stimuli, even plants. Single-celled protists move away from negative stimuli. Do you think an Amoeba feels pain, gets depressed or bored?
One of the first rules of studying animal behavior is not to project human emotions onto animals. That would be making assumptions without any facts to back up those assumptions. Can you get into an animal’s head and experience the world through its senses? Just exactly how do suggest one diagnoses depression in a fish?
I don’t care if you feel fish have emotions. It is just insulting to say I have little information on fish or am ignorant that humans are animals. Just because we have emotions that doesn’t say anything about any other organism without evidence. We know that even people of different cultures react differently to the same situation so how can you assume anything about animals?
If you have evidence to support your points, fine. Right now it looks to me that you are the one with little information.
所有的有机体都会对刺激产生反应，即使是植物。单细胞原生生物远离负面刺激。你认为变形虫会感到疼痛、抑郁或烦闷吗？
研究动物行为的首要规则之一是不要将人类的情感投射到动物身上。这将是在没有任何事实支持这些假设的情况下做出假设。你能进入动物的大脑，通过它的感官体验世界吗？到底该如何诊断一条鱼的抑郁症呢？
我不在乎你是否觉得鱼有感情。但是，说我不懂关于鱼类的信息，或者说我不知道人类是动物，这是一种侮辱。只是因为我们的情绪在没有证据的情况下不会对任何其他有机体产生任何影响。我们知道，即使是不同文化的人对同一情况的反应也不同，那么你怎么能对动物做出任何假设呢？
如果你有证据支持你的观点，没问题。现在在我看来，你就是一个根本什么都不懂的人。
Anastasia Weaver
Dogs absolutely get bored, especially if you have a high energy breed. They get destructive or neurotic when not properly stimulated or exercised. Same with basically any mammal. Though I do agree that the water gets a little murky when you ascribe mammalian traits/emotions to fish. Pun intended.
狗绝对会感到烦闷，尤其是你养的是一个精力旺盛的品种。如果没有适当的刺激或锻炼，他们会变得具有破坏性或神经质。基本上所有哺乳动物都一样。尽管我同意，当你把哺乳动物的特征/情绪归因于鱼时，水会变得有点浑浊。双关语。
Brenden Hawley
According to my ex veterinarian mom, dogs get bored and start self harming when they do, which is why it is important to walk them
据我的前兽医妈妈说，狗会感到烦闷，并开始自残，这就是为什么遛狗很重要。
Kathy Copeland
Dogs do get bored. I think a fish swimming around and around in a rectangle with just a minimum amount of accoutrements are bored also.
狗确实会感到烦闷。我觉得一条鱼在一个只有最少装备的长方形里游来游去也很烦闷。
