Chinese sci-fi blockbuster The Wandering Earth 2 has been released around the world. In this movie, there is a vertical takeoff and landing J-20 stealth fighter, and it is a two-seat version. The fuselage has a huge lift fan, and two main engine tail nozzles can be pointed downward. Some jokingly call it a hybrid of the American F35B and the Chinese J-20.
To be honest, the development of a J-20 vertical take-off and landing version is almost impossible, because the basic J-20 design has been finalised for years, and even the latest variant of the J-20B only has a modified canopy and rear fuselage, which is unlikely to accommodate the huge lifting fan.
In addition, the U.S. F-35 has a vertical takeoff and landing version because the U.S. Marine Corps is limited to amphibious assault ships and cannot use conventional takeoff and landing carrier-based fighters. In China, where the military divide is not as deep as it is in the United States, the Chinese can combine aircraft carriers with amphibious landing forces so that conventional fighter jets can serve the Marines directly.
In fact, the F35B is equipped with a lift fan that severely affects the amount of fuel and ammunition it can carry inside, which is not a good choice from a purely military perspective. In addition, the world's successful VTOL fighters are basically single engine layouts, which include the French Mirage 3 variant, the British Harrier, the Soviet Yak-38 and Yak-141, and the F35.
Finally, after the trailer for The Wandering Earth 2 aired, viewers pointed out that the lift fan hatch on the J-20 was closed too early. The crew took this seriously enough that they quickly changed the animation in the full film to correct the mistake. This shows that the Wandering Earth 2 crew have a wonderful attitude about their work. I strongly encourage you to watch this film in cinemas.
@shouriroy1242 C-17 also has a vertical takeoff version in " SPIDERMAN HOMECOMING "
C-17在《蜘蛛侠归来》中也有垂直起飞版本。
@user-bo1mz9cs7k If they do build a vertical liftoff it will probably be like the f35 one. Just so people can see that yes it exists but no its not that useful
@wangweiyuan5002 Note that there is a bulge above the left air inlet of the fighter jet, which may have added a machine gun, but the J-20 in real life does not have a machine gun. Given that the film is set in the near future, it is possible that an improved version of the J-20 with a machine gun could emerge, and it is possible that the Chinese engineers have redesigned the fighter to meet the mission requirements.
@tonbopro the science is key not the blueprints per se but more importantly is miniaturising your systems to stuff into the airfrx or risk building a new body，something the Soviets had trouble doing， now the Russians are getting on the revolution so it's not all bigger is better anymore
@tonbopro Everyone cheered when we saw this bird in action，to add salt to doubters wounds， its the same layout with Yakolev in the forward section but relax its just a movie
@user-ou8ji5sv6g Wow! So cool. Whose did they steal from?
哇! 太酷了。他们从谁那里偷的?
@rolandgrz1975 Israel sold china the j20 design, design paid for by American taxpayers slaves.
J20的设计是以色列卖给中国的，这个设计是美国奴隶纳税人支付的。
@jecknick7460 this could be very much based on reality !
可能在很大程度上基于现实！
@il_888 USA F 35 copy Russian Jak 141!!!
美国f35仿制俄罗斯Jak 141!!
@eric4802 best air combat movie this year
今年最佳空战电影。
@eastbengalregiment6686 The wandering earth 2019 box office 700 million dollar
《流浪地球》2019年票房7亿美元。
@tedb5432 F-35 cannot go supercruise without an afterburner. The Chinese J20 and Russian Su57 have double engines, they can maintain supercruise without an afterburner. The F-35 uses Harrier technology. The Russians had a vertical take-off fighter before the Harrier, I believe.
F-35 has about 800 critical issues, I am not even if their guns are working
F-35有大约800个严重问题，我不知道它们的炮是否能用。
@antwango lol im getting from everyones opinion on the f35 is its a dead horse..... and considering the US has stopped it..... the Russians had the Yakketty Yak..... If the Chinese have a VTOL i believe the Chinese will have carried on from where the Russians left off... obviously improving upon it, its 50 - 60 yr old tech
@JayV.2 That’s alot talk from a keyboard warrior. What you read some article off of some chinese site and you’re an expert right
一个键盘战士竟然说了这么多。你不过看了一些中国网站上的文章，就自认为是个专家了。
@aramisone7198 Hard to fly VTOL a F35 crashed not long ago when landing VTOL.
垂直起降很难飞，不久前，一架F35在垂直起降时坠毁。
@antwango nah the tech is sound... VTOL has existed for nigh on 60 odd years the Russians had a YAK the UK had the most successful Harrier or Kestrel..... crashing a VTOL a few feet above the ground sounds like an autopilot landing or software malfunction or its just the f35
@Oldfogey2014 I doubt they will be able to do it…unless the Russians do it first, so they can then copy it.
我怀疑他们是否能够做到，除非俄罗斯人先做到，这样他们就可以抄。
@donkeykong516 China needs to discover original stuff…
中国需要发现原创的东西……
@antwango like an f35 flying submarine? that is really original though im not going to lie
就像飞行潜艇f35? 但这确实是原创的，我不说谎。
@tonbopro the ancient Chinese established printed Notes and legal tender beside moveable type and paper and silk mass production，but the need for better is always there
中国古代除了活字印刷术、造纸和丝绸的大规模生产外，还建立了纸币和法定货币，但对更好的需求始终存在。
@rockon6274 Plz install pee and drink module
请安装小便和饮水模块。
@user-gc9yh2ic4q Don't think current F35 style VTOL design can be used on any twin engine jet easily. The lift fan(s) and thrust nozzles control will be much too complicated and efficiency will be even lower with more dead weight.
@khairulzilla1 We chinese is very much smarter than the USA. Thats why yall always whine to the world about us. Suck it!!
我们中国人比美国人聪明多了。这就是为什么你们总是向世界抱怨我们。渣渣! !
@strongchallenger2269 I want to inform you that F35 vertical take off is NOT US technology. It's pure lie! It's Russian! Do a bit more research and you will find the truth.
@philiptan2051 Nothing is impossible for China. The vtol aircraft may not be the j20 but China will certainly build the vstol to be used on the amphibious aircraft carrier. However, in an assault near shores good large helicopters are more essential to support the marines and landing missions than vtol jets. China is using well equipped helicopters for the amphibious carriers since they will increase the effectiveness and efficiency of landing missions than vtol aircraft.
@leomak959 China does not need stovl fighter in ASS, stovl fighter is a strange product only occur in US due to interservice rivalry and independent Marine Corps. China can easily deploy an ASS with a normal CATOBAR CV.
@antwango i was saying the same thing..... VTOL is about 50 yrs old now, and that was single engine? and did Russia have the YAK... if anyone can i believe China can, they have the resources and the will to do it..... the West only calculate profit and election votes..... Russia couldnt finish because they went bankrupt...... would not be the least surprised if Russia is helping out China and vice versa too.... the J20 even though from the ground up Chinese plane cant get away from accusations and similarities to older Russian concepts but obviously far more evolved and modern.... I believe Russia has passed on the baton
@KrazeDiamond Still not a fan of Wu Jin. He tries too hard to act like a calm, collected, calculated, mature bad ass warrior with a heart of gold. It's like Kardashian trying to act like she is a classy lady, yuck. These qualities are something that have to radiate naturally from within, one simple look from the eyes will throw off the right vibes. But if you ain't got it, you ain't got it.
@antwango LOL errrr sooo youre not a fan of wu jing then ahahahaha
哈哈，额，看来你确实不是京粉，啊哈哈哈。
@user-gt5te8zy4t I hope, china don, t make stupid plane like F35. It have many critical equip inside, so these reason make it shortlife.
我希望中国不要制造F35那样的愚蠢飞机。它内部有许多关键的设备，所以这些原因使它的寿命很短。
@seventian6117 J20 and Su57 fight together in the movie.
J20和苏57在电影中并肩作战。
@czh8074 Whats UEG?
UEG是什么?
@chineseforces united nation forces in the movie Wandering Earth 2
电影《流浪地球2》中的联合国部队。
@jaysonwong5335 Wandering Earth 2 is out on cinema, go watch it.
《流浪地球2》上映了，去看吧。
@kazamiamane9084 united earth government，maybe the same name with HALO
联合地球政府，可能和HALO的同名。
@jaysonwong5335 @@kazamiamane9084 that's from Duke Nukem 3D episode 2 actually
其实出自《毁灭公爵3D》第二集。
@wangweiyuan5002 The United Earth Government, in the film, is an international government reorganized by the United Nations in response to the solar crisis, and the nations release some of their military power to the government to facilitate unified command
@jaysonwong5335 @@wangweiyuan5002 how is the movie? Whose attack drones are those that attacked Wu Jing J-20?
电影怎么样? 攻击吴京驾驶的歼20的那些无人机是谁的?
@wangweiyuan5002 Coincidentally, I saw the movie three days ago and read many of the details of the movie. These drones turned out to be Predator attack drones developed by the US military to provide security for coalition military installations. However, these drones were hacked by terrorists and turned around to attack the space elevator facilities
@lepinearbres5299 No such thing J20 vertical take-off exists. You're being fooled by the misinformation maniac online. The one described 2 seaters J20 is still a test pilot with a newer generation higher load WS15 engine. However, there will be a J35 vertical currently at the beta test flight stage. It will be a generation 5.5 fighter jet that may be into 1st batch production from late 2023 to 2024 if everything go as per schedule.
@user-od3gu4en3l As was pointed out, the J20 vertical take-off plane exists only in that movie "Wandering Earth 2"
如前所述，垂直起飞版J20飞机只在电影《流浪地球2》中出现过。
@chineseforces may i suggest you watch the video first?
我建议你先看视频好吗?
@milus2917 Dude, just watch the whole video first ...........
老兄，先看完整个视频......
@hongkongpong5588 It is a sci-fi movie..bro..underwater J-20 also can be made..Can also fly to Tiangong Space Station ..to bring back taikonauts at their disposal..of course with sci-fi gadgets..
@antwango @@hongkongpong5588 WHOA!!!! Where can i see this underwater J20!!!!!??? that can also fly to the TianGong!!!!????
哇! ! 我在哪里可以看到水下版J20!!!!!?? 也可以飞到天宫!!!!????
@themythbuster6407 Indian Navy rejected their naval LCA for the same reason but somehow or rather, the politicians will get their ways.
印度海军出于同样的原因拒绝了他们的海军版LCA，但无论如何，政客们都会得逞的。
@chineseforces yes indian navy has been rejecting LCA for some time
是的，印度海军拒绝LCA已经有一段时间了。
@themythbuster6407 That is why I insisted that F-35B is an overly rated expensive naval fighter. With it's short range and low payload it is absolutely useless.
@chineseforces if it is not Navy against the idea, US Marine could just have fixed wing aircraft carrier assigned. The same for US Army not having any fixed wing ground attack aircraft
如果不是海军反对这个想法，美国海军陆战队可以直接分配固定翼航母。美国陆军也没有固定翼对地攻击机。
@jayechow8525 Actually, the US copied it from the soviet Yakovlev Yak-141 VTOL. China also brought this blueprint from the soviets.
实际上，美国是从苏联雅科夫列夫的雅克141仿制的垂直起降。中国也从苏联那里弄来了它的蓝图。
@strongchallenger2269 Thank you. I also want to say the same thing. ❤️. What I have heard is that the US Lockheed Martin told the Russians that they did not want their blueprint however they wanted the Russians to sell their full test data and specifications.
@antwango Ahhh I was thinking this.... Russia has literally passed on the baton to the Chinese! Chinese proving that Russian design and theory with proper resources and monetary backing is technologically sound and on a par to the west..... Makes sense too, and is smart of China to buy patents or blueprints from parties willing to sell! China gets a shortcut and carries on from where Russia left off
So eventually.... well I cannot wait to see what the Chinese come up with for a VTOL, hopefully will be amazing!!!
最终……好吧，我迫不及待地想看看中国人会造出什么样的垂直起降飞机，希望会是惊人的!!
wait didnt the US copy from the UK harrier or kestrel? The UK were pretty advanced....
等等，美国不是抄袭了英国的鹞式或隼式吗? 英国曾经相当先进……
@strongchallenger2269 @@antwango Yup. You said it correctly. US copied the UK Harrier Jump Jet. US don't have technology. Every technology is copied if not created by some smart people from other countries that were lured into the US offered with lucrative opportunities or materialism.
@SaintFluffySnow VTOL attack/fighter (remote land bases or sea carriers) is meant only for destroying populated urban cities, not defend a country against any foreign attackers
China has no need for such attack-type VTOL fighterjets
中国不需要这种攻击型垂直起降战斗机。
@antwango Also there must be a more elegant way for that hatch/opening for the vertical thrust fans??? I have always thought it looked cumbersome, awkward and complicated even on the F35???
Surely a designer can implement sliding slats? like a manhole cover that slides back instead of opening up vertically??? i mean im thinking out loud, im thinking some expensive cars already have elegant folding roofs etc that can fold away???
Again im not a jet designer i have no idea if this is possible on a jet but the technology and the design idea is there, is it feasible for a jet instead of a car i dont know?
If it was a sliding manhole cover for example.... surely it would be more simple? again im just thinking about the problems a vertical opening hatch might have for example someone shot it off or the mechanical hinges malfunctioned...... the vertical hatch i supposed does act like an airbrake???
id love to see a solution where its simply slides back?
我很想看到一个直接滑回的解决方案?
@jetli740 your idea of a sliding man hole cover wont work, the hatch sliding would be too slow and hard to make it flush with the jet body. direct trapdoor type can open and close very quick and much easily to make it flush to the jet body = less point of failure
@antwango @@chineseforces hmmm did a harrier have a need for the exhaust hatch? i dont recall, i have to look into it, i just wonder why all the designs so far is this inelegant rather obvious one..... i just remember i had a harrier plastic build your own model, airfix it might have been the kestrel...... i know the harrier had rotatable nozzles i think under the wings....
also the problem with this hatch is also like the folding roofs of cars, the cars cannot accelerate till the roof is completely folded away, i dont know if VTOL craft have this restriction??? But if it did it would make these VTOL sitting ducks for a few seconds to a few minutes
@antwango Da heck is wandering earth 2 Chinese starwars?????
《流浪地球2》是中国版 @hyltoniali257 It could be…It’d be a 500 yrs long journey til the new destination
有可能……它是一场500年的漫长旅行，直到新的目的地。
@irritatedanglosaxon1705 @Hyltonial I 5000 yrs
5000年。
@chineseforces it is very good, some might not like the politics in the move, just focus on the scifi part of it
这部电影非常好，有些人可能不喜欢电影中的政治，只关注其中的科幻部分。
@ericliume It is not star war or aliens , but the story of the end days of sun, and the act of human.
不是星球大战或外星人，而是关于太阳末日的故事，以及人类的行为。
@antwango @@ericliume i need to watch 1 again.... i remember watching it and thinking meh, impressed with the scifi graphics coming from a chinese scifi movie as it was hyped everywhere.... even neil degrasse tyson i think chimed in...... but i cant remember much about it..... and i didnt even know there was a sequel
@ericliume @@antwango Wandering Earth movies are based on the novel with the same name. The author of this novel is Liu Cixin from China, who also wrote the famous trilogy of The Three-Body Problem.
《流浪地球》系列电影是根据同名小说改编的。这部小说的作者是来自中国的刘慈欣，他也是著名的《三体》三部曲 @dk1064 @@antwango the wandering earth 2019 first flim Box office 700 million dollar Now the wandering earth 2 film release
《流浪地球》2019年第一部 票房7亿美元。 现在《流浪地球2》电影上映
@1ycan There won't be a vertical take off J-20 especially not the two passenger version, that one is even larger than the regular J-20, and the main point of vertical take off is on aircraft carriers, much more likely for the J-35 to have a variant for it than the J-20
@user-ih5si5kn3k Aircraft carriers do not need VTOL to operate as the runways are assisted with magnetic catapult for take offs and wires for short landings. Helicopter carriers on the other hand requires VTOL in order to operate the F-35B, however, it is no different from a helipad. Hence, the reason why Singapore bought 4 F-35B(up to 12) with the purpose of using it inland without a runway
@user-lf2gm7si1g If you have reliable electromagnetic catapult technology, VTOL doesn't make sense because it has so many drawbacks. Airfrx space, takeoff load, combat radius, deck steel strength.
@1ycan @@user-lf2gm7si1g China has two aircraft carriers that don't have electromagnetic catapults though, plus helicarriers
但中国有两艘没有电磁弹射器的航空母舰，还有直升机航空母舰。
@antwango @@1ycan what youre saying is "implausible" but not "impossible" i dont see right now a J20 VTOL that is different to saying China CANT make a VTOL J20 if ever there was a need though or a VTOL twin engine craft if not the J20..... The tech knowhow and the resources and expertise is there, its whether China PLAAF wants one or not
垂直起飞的歼-20战斗机曝光! 其实是《流浪地球2》，一定要看！
