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What are differences between Dutch and German people?
2022-04-08
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网友：我认为荷兰人和德国人没有什么共同之处。德国人一般都很友好，而荷兰人通常很粗鲁，不尊重人。德国人和荷兰人都有两个表示“你”的词，一个是礼貌的，一个是非正式的。荷兰语中不经常使用礼貌的you，而德国人总是使用礼貌的you。我认为荷兰人和英国人在阶级社会方面比与德国人有更多的共同点。
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What are differences between Dutch and German people?
荷兰人和德国人有什么不同?
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Thomas Mono
Germany is like a much older brother. We mock his seriousness sometimes, and cry shame upon what he did when he was in his rowdy hormonal years, too. We celebrate excessively when we get lucky in a game and win it. All this time we hope for his attention, but we know deep down that our big brother has more important things to do than fooling around with us little kids.
德国就像一个哥哥。我们有时会嘲笑他的严肃，也会为他在荷尔蒙泛滥时期的所作所为而感到羞愧。当我们在游戏中幸运获胜时，我们会过度地庆祝。一直以来，我们都希望得到他的关注，但我们内心深处知道，哥哥有更重要的事情要做，而不是和我们这些小孩子开玩笑。
Martin Basinger
Well, which German people? Germany is a country full of different cultures. Bavaria is extremely different from Northern Germany. You could compare it to the difference between Texas and Maine.
Dutch people and culture are not that different from Germans and German culture in the North-Western parts of Germany.
But if you compare Bavarians, or East Germans, to the Dutch, you’d find that they are very different.
At the same time, Dutch people from Amsterdam who’re used to city life and Dutch people on the border to Germany, where there are no big cities, are very different from each other.
Neither Germany nor The Netherlands have a monolithic culture. It’s a smooth gradient, not a hard cut.
There are laissez-faire Germans, there are strict Dutch. It’s not fair to try to generalise about European cultures. This is not Japan, where the culture is from the top down forced into anti-individualism.
那么，指哪些德国人呢?德国是一个充满不同文化的国家。巴伐利亚与德国北部截然不同。你可以把它和德克萨斯州与缅因州的差别进行比较。但是如果你把巴伐利亚人，或者东德人，和荷兰人相比，你会发现他们非常不同。与此同时，阿姆斯特丹的荷兰人习惯了城市生活，而德国边境的荷兰人没有大城市，他们彼此之间非常不同。德国和荷兰都没有统一的文化。试图概括欧洲文化是不公平的。不像日本，那里的文化是从上到下被迫反个人主义的。
Robert Steinberg
As an American who has spent a little time in both countries I find the Dutch more approachable and easy going. You see Dutch having conversations easily with strangers in Dutch and English on the trams in Amsterdam, whereas I felt, outside of beer gardens, this kind of interaction might be from unthinkable to unlikely in Germany.
作为一个在这两个国家都待过一段时间的美国人，我发现荷兰人更平易近人。你可以很容易看到荷兰人在阿姆斯特丹的有轨电车上用荷兰语和英语与陌生人交谈，然而我觉得，除了啤酒花园，这种互动在德国可能无法想象的。
Frank Kemper
There is one very simple difference: Germany is much larger than the Netherlands, it is 80 million people vs. 16 million people. Besides that there are much more German speaking people outsides Germany than Dutch speaking people outsides the Netherlands. This leads to the strange thing that about all films shown in German TV and German cinemas are synchronized in German language, while the Dutch are used to see cultural products from outsides their country in original language and subtitles. This makes Dutch people more open for foreign influences than Germans. It also leads to the fact that many Dutch are able to talk at least a little bit of German, while only very few Germans can talk Dutch.
Another simple difference: The netherlands have been a monarchy for centuries while Germany changed their political system several times over the last century. In my eyes this leads to far more patriotism in the Netherlands than we have in Germany. In my personal opinion the joyful Dutch patriotism is about right, while Germany has deficits in that regard. The King of the Netherlands has far more importance for the Dutch than the German Federal President for the Germans.
有一个非常简单的区别:德国比荷兰大得多，是8000万人口对1600万人口。除此之外，在德国以外说德语的人要比在荷兰以外说荷兰语的人多得多。这导致了一件奇怪的事情，即所有在德国电视和德国电影院放映的电影都是用德语同步播放的，而荷兰人则习惯于看到来自他们国家以外的文化产品以原语言和字幕播放。这使得荷兰人比德国人更容易接受外国的影响。也导致许多荷兰人至少会说一点德语，而只有很少的德国人会说荷兰语。
另一个简单的区别:荷兰几个世纪以来一直是君主制国家，而德国在上个世纪多次改变了他们的政治制度。在我看来，这导致荷兰人比德国人更爱国。在我个人看来，快乐的荷兰爱国主义是正确的，而德国在这方面有缺陷。荷兰国王对荷兰人的重要性远远超过德国联邦总统对德国人的重要性。
Being a much bigger country, the diversity within Germany is probably wider than the diversity within the Netherlands. I suppose that people from the Belgian border and people from Amsterdam are more similar in their beliefs and characteristics than people from Bavaria and people from Hamburg.
Germans do like Dutch more than Dutch like Germans. There are quite a few Dutch artists which became incredibly popular in Germany - by emphasizing the fact that they are from Holland. Rudi Carrell is regarded one of the most famous commedians in the last 50 years, and he always spoke German with a very strong dutch accent, not at all hiding that he is not German. I do not know of any German artist which had a similar role in Dutch culture. The main reason for that is the second world war and the atrocities the Nazis did to the Dutch.
Germans regard Dutch to be more open minded, also in terms of the use of soft drugs like pot and in terms of sexuality. If we want to make jokes about them, we emphasize the fact that they are worse car drivers and soccer players than Germany. In general we regard them as well educated, progressive and pleasant people. I also heard from friends who were working together with Dutch and found it a good experience. I suppose that there are more Dutch people going to Germany for holidays than the other way round, but the reason for that is mainly that we have mountains and they have not.
作为一个大得多的国家，德国内部的多样性可能比荷兰内部的多样性更广泛。我想比利时边境的人和阿姆斯特丹人在信仰和特征上比巴伐利亚人和汉堡人更相似。德国人确实比荷兰人更喜欢荷兰语。以下是一些荷兰艺术家，他们通过强调自己来自荷兰的事实，在德国变得非常受欢迎。鲁迪·卡雷尔(Rudi Carrell)被认为是过去50年里最著名的喜剧演员之一，他说德语时总是带着浓重的荷兰口音，一点也不掩饰他不是德国人。我不知道有哪个德国艺术家在荷兰文化中扮演过类似的角色。主要原因是第二次世界大战和纳粹对荷兰人的暴行。德国人认为荷兰人的思想更开放，在使用大麻等软性毒品和性方面也是如此。如果我们想拿他们开玩笑，我们会强调一个事实，那就是他们的司机和足球运动员都不如德国人。一般来说，我们认为他们是受过良好教育的、进步的、和蔼可亲的人。我还从和D荷兰人一起工作的朋友那里听说，这是一个很好的体验。我认为去德国度假的荷兰人要比去荷兰度假的德国人多，但这主要是因为我们有山，而他们没有。
Cameron Teague
To us in UK, they are both too blunt, but there is more underlying nastiness with the Dutch than the Germans who just appear tactless rather than just plain mean. Readily dishing out fierce and unfiltered criticism without being able to accept any in return due to being perfect is a trait they both have in common, but the Dutch are particularly thin skinned in this area.
对我们英国人来说，他们都太直率了，但与德国人相比，荷兰人潜藏着更多的龌龊——德国人看起来不太圆滑，而不是单纯的刻薄。因为他们都很完美，所以他们都很容易发出激烈的、未经过滤的批评而不能接受任何回馈，这是他们的共同特点，但荷兰人在这方面脸皮特别薄。
Felix van der Mijden
I think that the Dutch and the Germans have little in common. The Germans are generally pretty friendly while the Dutch are often rude and disrespectfull.
The Germans and the Dutch both have two words for ‘you’ a polite one and a informal one. The polite version of you is not often used in Dutch while the Germans always use the polite version. I think the Dutch have more in common withe English in terms of the class society than the Germans.
我认为荷兰人和德国人没有什么共同之处。德国人一般都很友好，而荷兰人通常很粗鲁，不尊重人。德国人和荷兰人都有两个表示“你”的词，一个是礼貌的，一个是非正式的。荷兰语中不经常使用礼貌的you，而德国人总是使用礼貌的you。我认为荷兰人和英国人在阶级社会方面比与德国人有更多的共同点。
Jens Böttiger
Well.. obvious ones are:
The Dutch kept their Low Germanic language and did not learn High German like other northern kingdoms and cities were forced to do.
They have a unique history in that they managed to build a powerful and wealthy colonial empire in the 17th century when all the other German polities were still weak, pathetic, tiny, and poor.
They have the northern phenotype, which isn’t as typically German since the south is much more mixed with Celtic and Latin peoples.
嗯. .明显的是:
荷兰人保留了他们的低地日耳曼语，不像其他北方王国和城市那样学习高地德语。他们有着独特的历史，因为他们在17世纪就成功地建立了一个强大而富有的殖民帝国，而当时所有其他的德国政体都还很弱小、可怜、和贫穷。他们有北方的表现型，这不是典型的德国人，因为南方是凯尔特人和拉丁民族的混合。
Roddie Roddie
I agree, Northern Germany (lets say everything from Dortmund towards north) shares a lot of common with Netherlands and Denmark. But areas like bavaria and Baden are completely different worlds..
我同意，德国北部(从多特蒙德到北部)与荷兰和丹麦有很多共同之处。但是像巴伐利亚和巴登这样的地区是完全不同的世界。
Johan Nijhof
As a Dutchman who has lived for over 7 years of his lifetime in Germany, I think the most obvious difference between the Germans and us is, that they are always so serious.If you are making a joke, they even look so sad! This goes for all regions in Germany, from Schleswig to Bad Reichenhall. So I would not lix it to Celtic or German descent.
作为一个在德国生活了7年多的荷兰人，我认为德国人和我们之间最明显的区别是，他们总是那么严肃。如果你是在开玩笑，他们看起来甚至很悲伤!
这适用于德国所有地区，从石勒苏益格到巴特赖申豪尔。所以我不会认为这是和凯尔特或德国血统有关。
M. Zizziro
The boundaries have always been nebulous. Dutch is very similar to the Plattdeutsch dialects in Düsseldorf, Niedersachsen and Hamburg area. The only difference is that for political reasons, the Netherlands was ruled by different powers and became an independent country. This allowed the local language to be standardized in way that Plattdeutsch was not.
这些界限一直是模糊的。荷兰语与杜塞尔多夫、下萨克森和汉堡地区的普拉特德语方言非常相似。唯一不同的是，由于政治原因，荷兰被不同的力量统治，成为一个独立的国家。这使得当地语言得以标准化，而普拉特德语却没有。
Sjors Pals
-Germans do not like to disobey rules while Dutch see rules mostly as a kind of advice, a good example is jaywalking, most Germans from what i observed always wait for the green light, even when there is no traffic at all, in the Netherlands everybody just walks when it it possible.
-Business is more serious, at most dutch companies work is a part of your social life, so it is normal to share personal stuff. Also in a business meeting there is mostly room for some fun or humor.
-Bureaucracy is a way larger problem in Germany, in the Netherlands you can just go to a municipal office to arrange simple stuff like subscribing as a new resident, getting a new passport etc, they are even open at night so you don’t have to take off from work.
-In Germany you would not see many shops open at Sunday, especially in the smaller towns, in the Netherlands you will find many shops open at Sunday.
-Germany is cleaner, you will see not many litter on the streets, Dutch people tend to be very lazy and just throw their stuff on the street. I often saw people who where 2 meter from a bin, and still threw it at the ground.
德国人不喜欢违反规则，而荷兰人则将规则视为一种建议，一个很好的例子就是乱穿马路，据我观察，大多数德国人总是等绿灯，即使根本没有车辆的时候，在荷兰，只要有可能，每个人都会横穿马路。在大多数荷兰公司，工作是你社交生活的一部分，所以分享私人的东西是很正常的。此外，在商务会议中，大部分时间都有一些有趣或幽默的空间。官僚主义在德国是一个更大的问题，在荷兰，你只需去市政办公室安排一些简单的事情，比如申请新居民、办新护照等，它们甚至在晚上还开着，这样你就不用下班来做这些。在德国，你不会看到很多商店在周日开门，特别是在小城镇，在荷兰，你会发现很多商店在周日开门。德国更干净，你不会看到街上有很多垃圾，荷兰人往往很懒，把他们的垃圾扔在街上。我经常看到有人在离垃圾桶2米远的地方，还把垃圾扔在地上。
Miriam Alek
The Netherlands is in general more expensive then Germany. That's why also a lot of dutch people choose to go live in Germany because of the difference in houseprices.
Also the restaurants in Germany are most of times a lot cheaper then in the Netherlands, and also a lot of dutch people who live close at the border like to benefit from the difference in prices of petrol.
Another difference is driving and speed limit. In Germany your allowed to drive a lot harder than in the Netherlands. And a large number of parts in Germany has unlimited speedlimits, that also attracts a lot of dutch people to go once in a while over the border to enjoy the driving with a higher speed.
Also a difference is language . This generation speaks better English than the older generation but like a lot of dutch people speak English very well and most of times also a few other languages, are/were not all Germans so well in speaking English or other languages.
荷兰的物价一般比德国高。这也是为什么很多荷兰人因为房价的差异而选择去德国生活。而且大多数时候，德国的餐馆价格比荷兰便宜得多，而且，许多住在边境附近的荷兰人喜欢从汽油价格的差异中获益。另一个区别是开车和速度限制。在德国，你可以开得比在荷兰更猛。大部分地方都没有速度限制，这吸引了很多荷兰人偶尔越境享受高速驾驶的乐趣。语言也是不同的。这一代人英语说得比老一辈人好，很多荷兰人英语说得很好，大多数时候也说一些其他语言，但并不是所有的德国人都说英语或其他语言。
Johannes Siemers
There are although a lot of Dutch who speak German, but only few Germans who speak Dutch.
The differences of the petrol prices have changed over the years a few times. Depending on who has currently the highest tax on it. There were times when Germans got over the border to fuel up there.
虽然有很多荷兰人说德语，但只有少数德国人说荷兰语。几年来，汽油价格的差异发生了几次变化。这取决于目前谁的税收最高。有几次德国人都越过边境去荷兰加油。
Chuchita Pérez
After living in the Netherlands for 3 years and being raised with strong German influences, I think the main difference is that the Dutch perceive themselves completely opposite to what they really are, whereas Germans are more self- conscious and down to earth. Dutch seem happier than Germans on the outside but are not necessarily more open to people (although they claim they are). Germans are better listeners and utterly respectful to law. They are harsh but fair. Dutch are very “direct", which is how they refer to rudeness, and are clever assholes always wanting to take advantage of people and situations. They were the first country to legalize egalitarian marriage but besides that, they are very rural and traditional people.
在荷兰生活了3年，在德国的影响下长大，我认为主要的区别在于荷兰人对自己的认知与他们的真实身份完全相反，而德国人则更加自觉和脚踏实地。从外表上看，荷兰人似乎比德国人更快乐，但不见得对人们更开放(尽管他们声称自己更开放)。德国人是更好的倾听者，完全尊重规则。他们严厉但公平。荷兰人非常“直接”，就显得他们更粗鲁，他们是聪明的混蛋，总是想要利用人和事。他们是第一个使平等婚姻合法化的国家，但除此之外，他们是非常农村和传统的人。
Terry Humphries
Based on what my Dutch friends have been saying, the difference is that the Dutch are always wondering if the Germans will steal their bicycles, and when they will get them back……. :)
根据我的荷兰朋友的说法，他们之间的区别在于，荷兰人总是在想，德国人会不会偷他们的自行车，以及他们什么时候能把自行车找回来。
Miriam Alek
Difference in dealing with people :
Dutch want to be liked quickly by others, Germans respected.
In the Netherlands we move quickly to "you" not in Germany, the Germans keep more distance first..when they start the know the person better and feel more comfortable they will move to "you".
Most Germans find it weird that the Dutch people give each other 3 kisses if they are not family or real friends, but just know each other well. In Germany they hand.
Difference in jokes & humour :
In everyday life the Dutch solve many big and small issues with a joke or mockery. "Sense of humor", "daily humor" and a lot of irony and self-mockery is less common in Germany and therefore is not always understood by the Germans and not recognized as humor or irony.
与人打交道的不同之处:
荷兰人想要迅速被别人喜欢，德国人想要被尊重。
在荷兰，我们很快就会接近“你”，而在德国，德国人首先会和对方保持更多的距离，当他们开始更了解对方，感觉更舒服时，他们才会接近“你”。
大多数德国人觉得奇怪的是，如果荷兰人就算不是家人或真正的朋友，他们也会互相亲吻3次。而德国是握手。
笑话和幽默的区别:
在日常生活中，荷兰人用玩笑或嘲讽来解决许多大大小小的问题。“幽默感”、“日常幽默”以及大量的讽刺和自嘲在德国不太常见，因此并不总是被德国人理解，也不被认为是幽默或讽刺。
Difference in rules :
Dutch see rules and regulations often as "advice". You do not really adhere to, it is possible. And if you don't keep to rules, people should not go whine too much about it. In short: We are happy with flexible rules. That's different in Germany. "Ordnung muss sein", rules are rules, agreements are agreements.
Germans understand nothing of the Dutch "tolerance": it is forbidden, but when it happens you will not get punished. On the other hand, we look more on the Germans than you might think: If the train in the Netherlands arrives 5 minutes, too late, the Dutch complain just as hard as the Germans about it
Difference in drinking and eating :
Food and drinking alcohol is more important to Germans than Dutch people. Germans seize every opportunity to eat and drink cozy with friends and family
Beer is seen not so much as alcohol in Germany, but more as an ordinary thirst quencher.
What for us the croquettes and frikandellen are at the snack bar, are the sausages in Germany at the "Imbiss". Especially the Currywurst
They are the favorite of most German people.
规则差异:
荷兰人经常将规章制度视为“建议”。真的不必坚持。如果你不遵守规则，人们不会抱怨太多。简而言之:我们灵活对待规则。在德国就不同，规则就是规则，协议就是协议。
德国人完全不理解荷兰人的“宽容”:事情不允许，但是事情发生了也可以免惩罚。
饮食方面的差异:
食物和酒精对德国人比荷兰人更重要。德国人抓住每一个与朋友和家人舒适地吃喝的机会。
在德国，啤酒与其说是酒精，不如说是一种普通的解渴饮料。
Difference in driving cars :
The Dutch are more modest in driving expensive cars. In Germany it is different. If you have money, you can also show it. No one will say anything about it, because if you have honestly earned money, then why isn't okay to show it ? Therefore, a Mercedes or BMW in Germany nothing more than an expensive, solid car. The Dutch see someone with a big car quickly as a "macho". But same time social assistance is much lower than in the Netherlands.
The Germans are still struggling with their wartime past. The war generation would initially have liked to forget the war by working hard to rebuild the country, but it wasn't that simple and that was also not accepted abroad. On the other hand one is no longer willing to constantly live with a kind of "personal perpetual debt" as others start about it. A large majority of the next generation Germans says in these times: "It was wrong what the Germans did then, but am I the one to blame for that? It's not my fault." Just as in the Netherlands it also became clear that not every Dutchman was in the resistance. Nowadays people can speak more openly about the war past in Germany but also in the Netherlands.
开车的区别:
荷兰人在开豪车方面比较谨慎。在德国情况就不同了。如果你有钱，你也可以表现出来。没人会说什么，因为如果你是诚实挣来的钱，为什么不能展示出来呢?因此，在德国，一辆奔驰或宝马不过是一辆昂贵、坚固的汽车。荷兰人把开大车的人视为“猛男”。
德国人仍在为过去的战争而挣扎。战争一代最初希望通过努力重建国家来忘记战争，但事情没那么简单，而且在国外也不被接受。另一方面，一个人不再愿意一直生活在一种因他人引起的“个人永久债务”中。大多数下一代德国人在这个时代会说:“德国人当时的所作所为是错误的，但我应该为此负责吗?这不是我的错啊。”就像在荷兰一样，很明显不是每个荷兰人都参加了抵抗。如今，人们可以更公开地谈论德国和荷兰的战争历史。
Joeri Veenhuizen
The Netherlands has always been a country of trade and innovation. A country that has has to survive lots of enemies, both human and nature. With survive I mean literally survive. As far as I know, the Netherlands has been in quite some wars but has never started any and has always tried to stay neutral. It’s a country that has always wanted to build the best place for the people.
Germany however has been in many wars and has, as we know, started a few wars as well, not always directly. But due to this, Germany has been very technologically advanced, but very economically poor. Plus that the country was divided for 35 years with two very different cultures still leaves a mark on the country today. You can see that Germany has a lot of cultural differences if it comes to for example the goth culture, which is quite big in Germany but not in the Netherlands. This is still a remainder of the cold war, due to eastern soviet influence back in the day.
And even today the countries aren’t that different. The Netherlands still gets most of their economy from trade and architecture, and Germany still from technology and military advancements and equipment.
I would say the Netherlands is a very free, more modern country with a modern government that cares about the people, the country and the environment. With Germany, the government is more classical, people are slightly less free to do what they want (for example the usage of marijuana, which is legal in the Netherlands but not in Germany is a good example that the government is slightly more controlling), the country is mostly still quite classic with a lot of old houses and other buildings and the environment is not a priority.
A good example of this is Volkswagen, who have already had multiple global lawsuits due to a too big amount of exhaust fumes. Also, in the Netherlands are only 5 coal centrals left which don’t run on full power anymore and are due to close all between 2030 and 2035. Germany however is still planning to build 30 coal centrals, on top of the ones they already have.
However with all these differences, the two countries do share one big thing: Both countries work hard and try to work as efficiently as possible.
荷兰一直是一个贸易和创新的国家。一个国家必须从许多敌人中生存下来，包括人类和自然。生存，我的意思是生存。据我所知，荷兰经历过不少战争，但从未发动过任何战争，而且一直试图保持中立。这是一个一直希望为人民建设最好的地方的国家。然而，德国参加了很多战争，我们知道，它也发动了一些战争，但并不总是直接发动的。但正因为如此，德国在技术上非常先进，但在经济上非常贫穷。此外，这个国家分裂了35年，两种截然不同的文化至今仍在这个国家留下印记。你可以看到德国有很多文化差异，文化差异在德国是很大的，但在荷兰就不明显。这仍然是冷战的余波，因为受当时东边苏联的影响。荷兰的经济仍主要来自贸易和建设，德国的经济仍主要来自技术、军事进步和设备。我认为荷兰是一个非常自由、现代的国家，有一个关心人民、国家和环境的现代政府。在德国，政府更传统，人们做他们想做之事的自由稍少(例如大麻，在荷兰是合法的，但在德国不是，这是一个很好的例子，德国政府稍微有控制)，这个国家仍然是非常古典的，有很多老房子和其他老建筑，环境不是优先考虑的。一个很好的例子就是大众汽车，由于排放了太多的废气，该公司已有多个全球诉讼。此外，荷兰仅剩的5个煤炭中心都不再全速运转，并将在2030年至2035年间全部关闭。然而，德国仍计划在已有的基础上再建30个煤炭中心。然而，尽管有这些差异，这两个国家有一个共同点:两国都努力工作，并尽可能地高效工作。
Joe Pee
The following is an anecdote from the 70s Dutch business people would tell each other at the time. A company has 2 factories, one in Netherlands and one in Germany. Both employ around the same number of workers with similar skill-sets. The employment contracts of both the Dutch and Germany workers state that work starts at 8 a.m. Monday to Friday.
On the Dutch side of the border, everyone turns up to work at 8 o’clock (because that is what their contracts stipulate) on the dot (very few occurrences of workers turning up late for work). Once inside, everyone first changes into their work-clothes, then sits down for a couple minutes to have a cup of coffee (and probably a cigarette - it’s the 70s!) and by the time they are standing at their machines and actual production has begun, it’s around 8.15 a.m.
Like on the Dutch side of the border, no one turns up late for work on the German side, but here all the workers are at the factory gates at 7.45 a.m. (yes, despite that their contracts also stipulate 8.00 a.m.). They go inside, change into their work-clothes, have an essential cup of coffee (and probably also a cigarette (in those days)), but by the time they are manning their machines and production is rolling it’s 8 a.m. sharp.
下面是70年代荷兰商人之间的一段轶事。一家公司有两个工厂，一个在荷兰，一个在德国。这两家公司雇佣的工人数量差不多，技能也差不多。荷兰和德国工人的劳动合同规定，周一至周五上午8点开始工作。在荷兰，每个人八点准时上班(因为这是他们的合同规定的，很少发生工人迟到的情况)。进入室内后，每个人都先换上工作服，然后坐下来喝几分钟咖啡(可能还抽根烟——是70年代!)当他们站在机器前开始实际生产时，已经是上午8点15分左右了。就像在边境的荷兰那边一样，德国那边没有人上班迟到，但在这里，所有的工人都在早上7点45分来到工厂门口(是的，尽管他们的合同也规定上午8点上班)。他们走进屋子，换上工作服，喝杯必不可少的咖啡(在那个年代，可能还会抽根烟)，但当他们操作机器、开始生产的时候，是早上8点整。
Bob Verjans
In my experience, the biggelt difference is this:
The Dutch are very pragmatic and the Germans value tradition and habits more.
根据我的经验，最大的区别是:
荷兰人非常务实，而德国人更重视传统和习惯。
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Germany is like a much older brother. We mock his seriousness sometimes, and cry shame upon what he did when he was in his rowdy hormonal years, too. We celebrate excessively when we get lucky in a game and win it. All this time we hope for his attention, but we know deep down that our big brother has more important things to do than fooling around with us little kids.
德国就像一个哥哥。我们有时会嘲笑他的严肃，也会为他在荷尔蒙泛滥时期的所作所为而感到羞愧。当我们在游戏中幸运获胜时，我们会过度地庆祝。一直以来，我们都希望得到他的关注，但我们内心深处知道，哥哥有更重要的事情要做，而不是和我们这些小孩子开玩笑。
Martin Basinger
Well, which German people? Germany is a country full of different cultures. Bavaria is extremely different from Northern Germany. You could compare it to the difference between Texas and Maine.
Dutch people and culture are not that different from Germans and German culture in the North-Western parts of Germany.
But if you compare Bavarians, or East Germans, to the Dutch, you’d find that they are very different.
At the same time, Dutch people from Amsterdam who’re used to city life and Dutch people on the border to Germany, where there are no big cities, are very different from each other.
Neither Germany nor The Netherlands have a monolithic culture. It’s a smooth gradient, not a hard cut.
There are laissez-faire Germans, there are strict Dutch. It’s not fair to try to generalise about European cultures. This is not Japan, where the culture is from the top down forced into anti-individualism.
那么，指哪些德国人呢?德国是一个充满不同文化的国家。巴伐利亚与德国北部截然不同。你可以把它和德克萨斯州与缅因州的差别进行比较。但是如果你把巴伐利亚人，或者东德人，和荷兰人相比，你会发现他们非常不同。与此同时，阿姆斯特丹的荷兰人习惯了城市生活，而德国边境的荷兰人没有大城市，他们彼此之间非常不同。德国和荷兰都没有统一的文化。试图概括欧洲文化是不公平的。不像日本，那里的文化是从上到下被迫反个人主义的。
Robert Steinberg
As an American who has spent a little time in both countries I find the Dutch more approachable and easy going. You see Dutch having conversations easily with strangers in Dutch and English on the trams in Amsterdam, whereas I felt, outside of beer gardens, this kind of interaction might be from unthinkable to unlikely in Germany.
作为一个在这两个国家都待过一段时间的美国人，我发现荷兰人更平易近人。你可以很容易看到荷兰人在阿姆斯特丹的有轨电车上用荷兰语和英语与陌生人交谈，然而我觉得，除了啤酒花园，这种互动在德国可能无法想象的。
Frank Kemper
There is one very simple difference: Germany is much larger than the Netherlands, it is 80 million people vs. 16 million people. Besides that there are much more German speaking people outsides Germany than Dutch speaking people outsides the Netherlands. This leads to the strange thing that about all films shown in German TV and German cinemas are synchronized in German language, while the Dutch are used to see cultural products from outsides their country in original language and subtitles. This makes Dutch people more open for foreign influences than Germans. It also leads to the fact that many Dutch are able to talk at least a little bit of German, while only very few Germans can talk Dutch.
Another simple difference: The netherlands have been a monarchy for centuries while Germany changed their political system several times over the last century. In my eyes this leads to far more patriotism in the Netherlands than we have in Germany. In my personal opinion the joyful Dutch patriotism is about right, while Germany has deficits in that regard. The King of the Netherlands has far more importance for the Dutch than the German Federal President for the Germans.
有一个非常简单的区别:德国比荷兰大得多，是8000万人口对1600万人口。除此之外，在德国以外说德语的人要比在荷兰以外说荷兰语的人多得多。这导致了一件奇怪的事情，即所有在德国电视和德国电影院放映的电影都是用德语同步播放的，而荷兰人则习惯于看到来自他们国家以外的文化产品以原语言和字幕播放。这使得荷兰人比德国人更容易接受外国的影响。也导致许多荷兰人至少会说一点德语，而只有很少的德国人会说荷兰语。
另一个简单的区别:荷兰几个世纪以来一直是君主制国家，而德国在上个世纪多次改变了他们的政治制度。在我看来，这导致荷兰人比德国人更爱国。在我个人看来，快乐的荷兰爱国主义是正确的，而德国在这方面有缺陷。荷兰国王对荷兰人的重要性远远超过德国联邦总统对德国人的重要性。
Being a much bigger country, the diversity within Germany is probably wider than the diversity within the Netherlands. I suppose that people from the Belgian border and people from Amsterdam are more similar in their beliefs and characteristics than people from Bavaria and people from Hamburg.
Germans do like Dutch more than Dutch like Germans. There are quite a few Dutch artists which became incredibly popular in Germany - by emphasizing the fact that they are from Holland. Rudi Carrell is regarded one of the most famous commedians in the last 50 years, and he always spoke German with a very strong dutch accent, not at all hiding that he is not German. I do not know of any German artist which had a similar role in Dutch culture. The main reason for that is the second world war and the atrocities the Nazis did to the Dutch.
Germans regard Dutch to be more open minded, also in terms of the use of soft drugs like pot and in terms of sexuality. If we want to make jokes about them, we emphasize the fact that they are worse car drivers and soccer players than Germany. In general we regard them as well educated, progressive and pleasant people. I also heard from friends who were working together with Dutch and found it a good experience. I suppose that there are more Dutch people going to Germany for holidays than the other way round, but the reason for that is mainly that we have mountains and they have not.
作为一个大得多的国家，德国内部的多样性可能比荷兰内部的多样性更广泛。我想比利时边境的人和阿姆斯特丹人在信仰和特征上比巴伐利亚人和汉堡人更相似。德国人确实比荷兰人更喜欢荷兰语。以下是一些荷兰艺术家，他们通过强调自己来自荷兰的事实，在德国变得非常受欢迎。鲁迪·卡雷尔(Rudi Carrell)被认为是过去50年里最著名的喜剧演员之一，他说德语时总是带着浓重的荷兰口音，一点也不掩饰他不是德国人。我不知道有哪个德国艺术家在荷兰文化中扮演过类似的角色。主要原因是第二次世界大战和纳粹对荷兰人的暴行。德国人认为荷兰人的思想更开放，在使用大麻等软性毒品和性方面也是如此。如果我们想拿他们开玩笑，我们会强调一个事实，那就是他们的司机和足球运动员都不如德国人。一般来说，我们认为他们是受过良好教育的、进步的、和蔼可亲的人。我还从和D荷兰人一起工作的朋友那里听说，这是一个很好的体验。我认为去德国度假的荷兰人要比去荷兰度假的德国人多，但这主要是因为我们有山，而他们没有。
Cameron Teague
To us in UK, they are both too blunt, but there is more underlying nastiness with the Dutch than the Germans who just appear tactless rather than just plain mean. Readily dishing out fierce and unfiltered criticism without being able to accept any in return due to being perfect is a trait they both have in common, but the Dutch are particularly thin skinned in this area.
对我们英国人来说，他们都太直率了，但与德国人相比，荷兰人潜藏着更多的龌龊——德国人看起来不太圆滑，而不是单纯的刻薄。因为他们都很完美，所以他们都很容易发出激烈的、未经过滤的批评而不能接受任何回馈，这是他们的共同特点，但荷兰人在这方面脸皮特别薄。
Felix van der Mijden
I think that the Dutch and the Germans have little in common. The Germans are generally pretty friendly while the Dutch are often rude and disrespectfull.
The Germans and the Dutch both have two words for ‘you’ a polite one and a informal one. The polite version of you is not often used in Dutch while the Germans always use the polite version. I think the Dutch have more in common withe English in terms of the class society than the Germans.
我认为荷兰人和德国人没有什么共同之处。德国人一般都很友好，而荷兰人通常很粗鲁，不尊重人。德国人和荷兰人都有两个表示“你”的词，一个是礼貌的，一个是非正式的。荷兰语中不经常使用礼貌的you，而德国人总是使用礼貌的you。我认为荷兰人和英国人在阶级社会方面比与德国人有更多的共同点。
Jens Böttiger
Well.. obvious ones are:
The Dutch kept their Low Germanic language and did not learn High German like other northern kingdoms and cities were forced to do.
They have a unique history in that they managed to build a powerful and wealthy colonial empire in the 17th century when all the other German polities were still weak, pathetic, tiny, and poor.
They have the northern phenotype, which isn’t as typically German since the south is much more mixed with Celtic and Latin peoples.
嗯. .明显的是:
荷兰人保留了他们的低地日耳曼语，不像其他北方王国和城市那样学习高地德语。他们有着独特的历史，因为他们在17世纪就成功地建立了一个强大而富有的殖民帝国，而当时所有其他的德国政体都还很弱小、可怜、和贫穷。他们有北方的表现型，这不是典型的德国人，因为南方是凯尔特人和拉丁民族的混合。
Roddie Roddie
I agree, Northern Germany (lets say everything from Dortmund towards north) shares a lot of common with Netherlands and Denmark. But areas like bavaria and Baden are completely different worlds..
我同意，德国北部(从多特蒙德到北部)与荷兰和丹麦有很多共同之处。但是像巴伐利亚和巴登这样的地区是完全不同的世界。
Johan Nijhof
As a Dutchman who has lived for over 7 years of his lifetime in Germany, I think the most obvious difference between the Germans and us is, that they are always so serious.If you are making a joke, they even look so sad! This goes for all regions in Germany, from Schleswig to Bad Reichenhall. So I would not lix it to Celtic or German descent.
作为一个在德国生活了7年多的荷兰人，我认为德国人和我们之间最明显的区别是，他们总是那么严肃。如果你是在开玩笑，他们看起来甚至很悲伤!
这适用于德国所有地区，从石勒苏益格到巴特赖申豪尔。所以我不会认为这是和凯尔特或德国血统有关。
M. Zizziro
The boundaries have always been nebulous. Dutch is very similar to the Plattdeutsch dialects in Düsseldorf, Niedersachsen and Hamburg area. The only difference is that for political reasons, the Netherlands was ruled by different powers and became an independent country. This allowed the local language to be standardized in way that Plattdeutsch was not.
这些界限一直是模糊的。荷兰语与杜塞尔多夫、下萨克森和汉堡地区的普拉特德语方言非常相似。唯一不同的是，由于政治原因，荷兰被不同的力量统治，成为一个独立的国家。这使得当地语言得以标准化，而普拉特德语却没有。
Sjors Pals
-Germans do not like to disobey rules while Dutch see rules mostly as a kind of advice, a good example is jaywalking, most Germans from what i observed always wait for the green light, even when there is no traffic at all, in the Netherlands everybody just walks when it it possible.
-Business is more serious, at most dutch companies work is a part of your social life, so it is normal to share personal stuff. Also in a business meeting there is mostly room for some fun or humor.
-Bureaucracy is a way larger problem in Germany, in the Netherlands you can just go to a municipal office to arrange simple stuff like subscribing as a new resident, getting a new passport etc, they are even open at night so you don’t have to take off from work.
-In Germany you would not see many shops open at Sunday, especially in the smaller towns, in the Netherlands you will find many shops open at Sunday.
-Germany is cleaner, you will see not many litter on the streets, Dutch people tend to be very lazy and just throw their stuff on the street. I often saw people who where 2 meter from a bin, and still threw it at the ground.
德国人不喜欢违反规则，而荷兰人则将规则视为一种建议，一个很好的例子就是乱穿马路，据我观察，大多数德国人总是等绿灯，即使根本没有车辆的时候，在荷兰，只要有可能，每个人都会横穿马路。在大多数荷兰公司，工作是你社交生活的一部分，所以分享私人的东西是很正常的。此外，在商务会议中，大部分时间都有一些有趣或幽默的空间。官僚主义在德国是一个更大的问题，在荷兰，你只需去市政办公室安排一些简单的事情，比如申请新居民、办新护照等，它们甚至在晚上还开着，这样你就不用下班来做这些。在德国，你不会看到很多商店在周日开门，特别是在小城镇，在荷兰，你会发现很多商店在周日开门。德国更干净，你不会看到街上有很多垃圾，荷兰人往往很懒，把他们的垃圾扔在街上。我经常看到有人在离垃圾桶2米远的地方，还把垃圾扔在地上。
Miriam Alek
The Netherlands is in general more expensive then Germany. That's why also a lot of dutch people choose to go live in Germany because of the difference in houseprices.
Also the restaurants in Germany are most of times a lot cheaper then in the Netherlands, and also a lot of dutch people who live close at the border like to benefit from the difference in prices of petrol.
Another difference is driving and speed limit. In Germany your allowed to drive a lot harder than in the Netherlands. And a large number of parts in Germany has unlimited speedlimits, that also attracts a lot of dutch people to go once in a while over the border to enjoy the driving with a higher speed.
Also a difference is language . This generation speaks better English than the older generation but like a lot of dutch people speak English very well and most of times also a few other languages, are/were not all Germans so well in speaking English or other languages.
荷兰的物价一般比德国高。这也是为什么很多荷兰人因为房价的差异而选择去德国生活。而且大多数时候，德国的餐馆价格比荷兰便宜得多，而且，许多住在边境附近的荷兰人喜欢从汽油价格的差异中获益。另一个区别是开车和速度限制。在德国，你可以开得比在荷兰更猛。大部分地方都没有速度限制，这吸引了很多荷兰人偶尔越境享受高速驾驶的乐趣。语言也是不同的。这一代人英语说得比老一辈人好，很多荷兰人英语说得很好，大多数时候也说一些其他语言，但并不是所有的德国人都说英语或其他语言。
Johannes Siemers
There are although a lot of Dutch who speak German, but only few Germans who speak Dutch.
The differences of the petrol prices have changed over the years a few times. Depending on who has currently the highest tax on it. There were times when Germans got over the border to fuel up there.
虽然有很多荷兰人说德语，但只有少数德国人说荷兰语。几年来，汽油价格的差异发生了几次变化。这取决于目前谁的税收最高。有几次德国人都越过边境去荷兰加油。
Chuchita Pérez
After living in the Netherlands for 3 years and being raised with strong German influences, I think the main difference is that the Dutch perceive themselves completely opposite to what they really are, whereas Germans are more self- conscious and down to earth. Dutch seem happier than Germans on the outside but are not necessarily more open to people (although they claim they are). Germans are better listeners and utterly respectful to law. They are harsh but fair. Dutch are very “direct", which is how they refer to rudeness, and are clever assholes always wanting to take advantage of people and situations. They were the first country to legalize egalitarian marriage but besides that, they are very rural and traditional people.
在荷兰生活了3年，在德国的影响下长大，我认为主要的区别在于荷兰人对自己的认知与他们的真实身份完全相反，而德国人则更加自觉和脚踏实地。从外表上看，荷兰人似乎比德国人更快乐，但不见得对人们更开放(尽管他们声称自己更开放)。德国人是更好的倾听者，完全尊重规则。他们严厉但公平。荷兰人非常“直接”，就显得他们更粗鲁，他们是聪明的混蛋，总是想要利用人和事。他们是第一个使平等婚姻合法化的国家，但除此之外，他们是非常农村和传统的人。
Terry Humphries
Based on what my Dutch friends have been saying, the difference is that the Dutch are always wondering if the Germans will steal their bicycles, and when they will get them back……. :)
根据我的荷兰朋友的说法，他们之间的区别在于，荷兰人总是在想，德国人会不会偷他们的自行车，以及他们什么时候能把自行车找回来。
Miriam Alek
Difference in dealing with people :
Dutch want to be liked quickly by others, Germans respected.
In the Netherlands we move quickly to "you" not in Germany, the Germans keep more distance first..when they start the know the person better and feel more comfortable they will move to "you".
Most Germans find it weird that the Dutch people give each other 3 kisses if they are not family or real friends, but just know each other well. In Germany they hand.
Difference in jokes & humour :
In everyday life the Dutch solve many big and small issues with a joke or mockery. "Sense of humor", "daily humor" and a lot of irony and self-mockery is less common in Germany and therefore is not always understood by the Germans and not recognized as humor or irony.
与人打交道的不同之处:
荷兰人想要迅速被别人喜欢，德国人想要被尊重。
在荷兰，我们很快就会接近“你”，而在德国，德国人首先会和对方保持更多的距离，当他们开始更了解对方，感觉更舒服时，他们才会接近“你”。
大多数德国人觉得奇怪的是，如果荷兰人就算不是家人或真正的朋友，他们也会互相亲吻3次。而德国是握手。
笑话和幽默的区别:
在日常生活中，荷兰人用玩笑或嘲讽来解决许多大大小小的问题。“幽默感”、“日常幽默”以及大量的讽刺和自嘲在德国不太常见，因此并不总是被德国人理解，也不被认为是幽默或讽刺。
Difference in rules :
Dutch see rules and regulations often as "advice". You do not really adhere to, it is possible. And if you don't keep to rules, people should not go whine too much about it. In short: We are happy with flexible rules. That's different in Germany. "Ordnung muss sein", rules are rules, agreements are agreements.
Germans understand nothing of the Dutch "tolerance": it is forbidden, but when it happens you will not get punished. On the other hand, we look more on the Germans than you might think: If the train in the Netherlands arrives 5 minutes, too late, the Dutch complain just as hard as the Germans about it
Difference in drinking and eating :
Food and drinking alcohol is more important to Germans than Dutch people. Germans seize every opportunity to eat and drink cozy with friends and family
Beer is seen not so much as alcohol in Germany, but more as an ordinary thirst quencher.
What for us the croquettes and frikandellen are at the snack bar, are the sausages in Germany at the "Imbiss". Especially the Currywurst
They are the favorite of most German people.
规则差异:
荷兰人经常将规章制度视为“建议”。真的不必坚持。如果你不遵守规则，人们不会抱怨太多。简而言之:我们灵活对待规则。在德国就不同，规则就是规则，协议就是协议。
德国人完全不理解荷兰人的“宽容”:事情不允许，但是事情发生了也可以免惩罚。
饮食方面的差异:
食物和酒精对德国人比荷兰人更重要。德国人抓住每一个与朋友和家人舒适地吃喝的机会。
在德国，啤酒与其说是酒精，不如说是一种普通的解渴饮料。
Difference in driving cars :
The Dutch are more modest in driving expensive cars. In Germany it is different. If you have money, you can also show it. No one will say anything about it, because if you have honestly earned money, then why isn't okay to show it ? Therefore, a Mercedes or BMW in Germany nothing more than an expensive, solid car. The Dutch see someone with a big car quickly as a "macho". But same time social assistance is much lower than in the Netherlands.
The Germans are still struggling with their wartime past. The war generation would initially have liked to forget the war by working hard to rebuild the country, but it wasn't that simple and that was also not accepted abroad. On the other hand one is no longer willing to constantly live with a kind of "personal perpetual debt" as others start about it. A large majority of the next generation Germans says in these times: "It was wrong what the Germans did then, but am I the one to blame for that? It's not my fault." Just as in the Netherlands it also became clear that not every Dutchman was in the resistance. Nowadays people can speak more openly about the war past in Germany but also in the Netherlands.
开车的区别:
荷兰人在开豪车方面比较谨慎。在德国情况就不同了。如果你有钱，你也可以表现出来。没人会说什么，因为如果你是诚实挣来的钱，为什么不能展示出来呢?因此，在德国，一辆奔驰或宝马不过是一辆昂贵、坚固的汽车。荷兰人把开大车的人视为“猛男”。
德国人仍在为过去的战争而挣扎。战争一代最初希望通过努力重建国家来忘记战争，但事情没那么简单，而且在国外也不被接受。另一方面，一个人不再愿意一直生活在一种因他人引起的“个人永久债务”中。大多数下一代德国人在这个时代会说:“德国人当时的所作所为是错误的，但我应该为此负责吗?这不是我的错啊。”就像在荷兰一样，很明显不是每个荷兰人都参加了抵抗。如今，人们可以更公开地谈论德国和荷兰的战争历史。
Joeri Veenhuizen
The Netherlands has always been a country of trade and innovation. A country that has has to survive lots of enemies, both human and nature. With survive I mean literally survive. As far as I know, the Netherlands has been in quite some wars but has never started any and has always tried to stay neutral. It’s a country that has always wanted to build the best place for the people.
Germany however has been in many wars and has, as we know, started a few wars as well, not always directly. But due to this, Germany has been very technologically advanced, but very economically poor. Plus that the country was divided for 35 years with two very different cultures still leaves a mark on the country today. You can see that Germany has a lot of cultural differences if it comes to for example the goth culture, which is quite big in Germany but not in the Netherlands. This is still a remainder of the cold war, due to eastern soviet influence back in the day.
And even today the countries aren’t that different. The Netherlands still gets most of their economy from trade and architecture, and Germany still from technology and military advancements and equipment.
I would say the Netherlands is a very free, more modern country with a modern government that cares about the people, the country and the environment. With Germany, the government is more classical, people are slightly less free to do what they want (for example the usage of marijuana, which is legal in the Netherlands but not in Germany is a good example that the government is slightly more controlling), the country is mostly still quite classic with a lot of old houses and other buildings and the environment is not a priority.
A good example of this is Volkswagen, who have already had multiple global lawsuits due to a too big amount of exhaust fumes. Also, in the Netherlands are only 5 coal centrals left which don’t run on full power anymore and are due to close all between 2030 and 2035. Germany however is still planning to build 30 coal centrals, on top of the ones they already have.
However with all these differences, the two countries do share one big thing: Both countries work hard and try to work as efficiently as possible.
荷兰一直是一个贸易和创新的国家。一个国家必须从许多敌人中生存下来，包括人类和自然。生存，我的意思是生存。据我所知，荷兰经历过不少战争，但从未发动过任何战争，而且一直试图保持中立。这是一个一直希望为人民建设最好的地方的国家。然而，德国参加了很多战争，我们知道，它也发动了一些战争，但并不总是直接发动的。但正因为如此，德国在技术上非常先进，但在经济上非常贫穷。此外，这个国家分裂了35年，两种截然不同的文化至今仍在这个国家留下印记。你可以看到德国有很多文化差异，文化差异在德国是很大的，但在荷兰就不明显。这仍然是冷战的余波，因为受当时东边苏联的影响。荷兰的经济仍主要来自贸易和建设，德国的经济仍主要来自技术、军事进步和设备。我认为荷兰是一个非常自由、现代的国家，有一个关心人民、国家和环境的现代政府。在德国，政府更传统，人们做他们想做之事的自由稍少(例如大麻，在荷兰是合法的，但在德国不是，这是一个很好的例子，德国政府稍微有控制)，这个国家仍然是非常古典的，有很多老房子和其他老建筑，环境不是优先考虑的。一个很好的例子就是大众汽车，由于排放了太多的废气，该公司已有多个全球诉讼。此外，荷兰仅剩的5个煤炭中心都不再全速运转，并将在2030年至2035年间全部关闭。然而，德国仍计划在已有的基础上再建30个煤炭中心。然而，尽管有这些差异，这两个国家有一个共同点:两国都努力工作，并尽可能地高效工作。
Joe Pee
The following is an anecdote from the 70s Dutch business people would tell each other at the time. A company has 2 factories, one in Netherlands and one in Germany. Both employ around the same number of workers with similar skill-sets. The employment contracts of both the Dutch and Germany workers state that work starts at 8 a.m. Monday to Friday.
On the Dutch side of the border, everyone turns up to work at 8 o’clock (because that is what their contracts stipulate) on the dot (very few occurrences of workers turning up late for work). Once inside, everyone first changes into their work-clothes, then sits down for a couple minutes to have a cup of coffee (and probably a cigarette - it’s the 70s!) and by the time they are standing at their machines and actual production has begun, it’s around 8.15 a.m.
Like on the Dutch side of the border, no one turns up late for work on the German side, but here all the workers are at the factory gates at 7.45 a.m. (yes, despite that their contracts also stipulate 8.00 a.m.). They go inside, change into their work-clothes, have an essential cup of coffee (and probably also a cigarette (in those days)), but by the time they are manning their machines and production is rolling it’s 8 a.m. sharp.
下面是70年代荷兰商人之间的一段轶事。一家公司有两个工厂，一个在荷兰，一个在德国。这两家公司雇佣的工人数量差不多，技能也差不多。荷兰和德国工人的劳动合同规定，周一至周五上午8点开始工作。在荷兰，每个人八点准时上班(因为这是他们的合同规定的，很少发生工人迟到的情况)。进入室内后，每个人都先换上工作服，然后坐下来喝几分钟咖啡(可能还抽根烟——是70年代!)当他们站在机器前开始实际生产时，已经是上午8点15分左右了。就像在边境的荷兰那边一样，德国那边没有人上班迟到，但在这里，所有的工人都在早上7点45分来到工厂门口(是的，尽管他们的合同也规定上午8点上班)。他们走进屋子，换上工作服，喝杯必不可少的咖啡(在那个年代，可能还会抽根烟)，但当他们操作机器、开始生产的时候，是早上8点整。
Bob Verjans
In my experience, the biggelt difference is this:
The Dutch are very pragmatic and the Germans value tradition and habits more.
根据我的经验，最大的区别是:
荷兰人非常务实，而德国人更重视传统和习惯。
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